Fans Behaviour

[Longtree1]

Hello
I would like to make a couple of points about your fans behavior on Saturday.
Firstly fans roaming about Stroud with a flare singing derogatory songs about FGR.
Secondly going into a social club in Nailsworth threatening anyone that was in there which actually lead to a sixteen year old lad getting struck.
My son was in the club when this happened and to be fare no one could believe it, especially considering one guy was around 50.
Forest Green have very few fans and certainly no hooligans so why the big hard club image.
If you have a problem with Dale Vince direct it at him not the fans as this is nothing short of bully boy tactics.
I myself have been following Bristol City home and away for 35 yrs and have been to Cheltenham many times in League games and friendlies withouthe a cross word ever being said.
Perhaps this was your opportunity to to play the big boys, my advice would be to give up as your actions were embarresing.

[asl]

Well said. Good point made, too: a bit like a bullied second-year pupil picking on a new first year in September.

[Jerry St Clair]

Why are you directing this at us?

I got punched by a Bristol City supporter in 1999. Are you responsible for that by association?

[Longtree1]

Why are you directing this at us?

I got punched by a Bristol City supporter in 1999. Are you responsible for that by association?

I am putting this on your forum because those responsible should be ashamed of themselves.
Anyone that knows anything about football knows quite well that FGR are a family club with mainly woolly jumper wearing supporters.
Trying to give it the big one in Stroud and Nailsworth is totally uncalled for
And hence the bully boy quote.
You unfortunately can expect this against Bristol City or any City club but not a town like Nailsworth.

[Jerry St Clair]

You’ve completely missed my point.

Why are the people on this board responsible for what happened in a social club we weren’t in? And why are we any more responsible for them, than you are for violent Bristol City fans? I also find it odd that you think it’s ok to cause trouble in a city, but not in in a place like Nailsworth? Why the distinction?

[Longtree1]

You’ve completely missed my point.

Why are the people on this board responsible for what happened in a social club we weren’t in? And why are we any more responsible for them, than you are for violent Bristol City fans? I also find it odd that you think it’s ok to cause trouble in a city, but not in in a place like Nailsworth? Why the distinction?

First I can guarantee that there are people on here reading this that were part of what happened.
Secondly the reason City's were mentioned is because statistically they usually have larger numbers of fasns that are potentially up for a dust up.
If you really think it is OK to give it the billy big balls in Nailsworth then that sums you up as an individual perfectly.
I very much doubt your hard men will be up for a row in Swindon, Luton, Mansfield or Coventry.

[Jerry St Clair]

You’ve completely missed my point.

Why are the people on this board responsible for what happened in a social club we weren’t in? And why are we any more responsible for them, than you are for violent Bristol City fans? I also find it odd that you think it’s ok to cause trouble in a city, but not in in a place like Nailsworth? Why the distinction?

If you really think it is OK to give it the billy big balls in Nailsworth then that sums you up as an individual perfectly.
I very much doubt your hard men will be up for a row in Swindon, Luton, Mansfield or Coventry.

Of course I don’t think it’s ok. Absolute idiots, the lots of them.

What I don’t get is why I, and the rest of this board, are guilty by association in your eyes. They are not “my hard men” at all. I don’t know them and want nothing to do with them.

[kiaora84]

Chanting about someone dying? Wish we had a nice family club like that....

[Longtree1]

Chanting about someone dying? Wish we had a nice family club like that....

I heard about that and as Bristol City fan was angry to say the least.

Remember though the kids behind the goal that would of sang such a dreadful thing have an average age of about 16 and an intelligence level well below that but are not hooligans just immature boys.

Also remember that this may have been fuelled by the actions of certain individuals before the game.

[Oldun]

So that makes it ok then does it?
The arrogance and self righteousness of the original post is beyond belief. The suggestion is that FGR fan are above reproach and that a few rowdy Cheltenham fans in a bar before a game is unacceptable. Incredible! As for being able to "guarantee" that people from this forum were involved....Words fail me.
I have read some rubbish on this board over the years, but this beats it all! May I suggest you get back to either Bristol City or FGR whichever it is and enjoy the peace and quiet that following them gives you. Meanwhile the rest of us will live in the real world.

[Horteng]

Hello
I would like to make a couple of points about your fans behavior on Saturday.
Firstly fans roaming about Stroud with a flare singing derogatory songs about FGR.
Secondly going into a social club in Nailsworth threatening anyone that was in there which actually lead to a sixteen year old lad getting struck.
My son was in the club when this happened and to be fare no one could believe it, especially considering one guy was around 50.
Forest Green have very few fans and certainly no hooligans so why the big hard club image.
If you have a problem with Dale Vince direct it at him not the fans as this is nothing short of bully boy tactics.
I myself have been following Bristol City home and away for 35 yrs and have been to Cheltenham many times in League games and friendlies withouthe a cross word ever being said.
Perhaps this was your opportunity to to play the big boys, my advice would be to give up as your actions were embarresing.

Funniest thing iv read on here for a long time. It really is about time the ecotricity FC fans got over themselves. FGR and "Big boys" will never find themselves being associated together

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

If you can guarantee that some reading this were involved in the alleged incidents then let us know who they are, name them, and we can take appropriate action.

[ctfc-fan]

So your fans singing about Gary dying is 'OK' because they were just young kids.

Our fans apparently kicked off in your pubs and clubs but that's not OK as they were definitely older as you were there and checked their ID.

Someone on this forum must know the alleged Cheltenham perpetrators.

My oh my....

[confused.com]

You are right this board is full of agent provocateurs !! Just gunning for a bust up in Nailsworth. Take these two anarchists for a start.

Confused.com - rather than suffer standing in the cold and being treated like cattle. Decides to breach the walls and go into the home end and create trouble. Oh wait a minute, or did he decide the inhumane treatment was not worth the bother and go and watch something else.

RCS - No ticket, so again decided to storm the walls and take over the home stand. Nope decides to sit in the pub instead.
First to agree that from time to time a few apologists try to defend the indefensible on here. However they are soon called out.

Hardly headline news that someone was drunk in a pub, and this is not condoning it in any way, people should be allowed to go about their daily lives in peace and quiet. To come on here claiming this is a hotbed of insurrection is laughable. We have enough trouble agreeing with ourselves, without spreading the love.

IMHO Nailsworth aka Forest Green, is the kind of place you drive through, not to and the thought of spending time in a social club in Stroud is quite alien to me.

[BenhallRobin]

Your stance seems very odd, so this behaviour would be perfectly acceptable in a City against a bigger Club, but must not happen in Nailsworth.

First of all, I am not convinced the allegation is accurate. However if the unlikely allegation is correct and this happened then of course there is no place for this.

You also fail to mention the FGR supporters who waited for Cheltenham fans at the bottom of the hill following the fixture. I did not witness this personally, but friends of mine who have been Cheltenham supporters for a very long time, did. I was informed that a group of young FGR fans and one in particular ran at a group of Cheltenham supporters, only for a policeman to intervene. I would imagine this would be the same group, who claim to be planning a party when Gary Johnson dies.

Perhaps you should focus more on your own supporters and their behaviour.

[Jerry St Clair]

You are right this board is full of agent provocateurs !! Just gunning for a bust up in Nailsworth. Take these two anarchists for a start.

Confused.com - rather than suffer standing in the cold and being treated like cattle. Decides to breach the walls and go into the home end and create trouble. Oh wait a minute, or did he decide the inhumane treatment was not worth the bother and go and watch something else.

RCS - No ticket, so again decided to storm the walls and take over the home stand. Nope decides to sit in the pub instead.
First to agree that from time to time a few apologists try to defend the indefensible on here. However they are soon called out.

For balance, I did “take” the home end and proceeded to have a coffee and a nice chat about football with the FGR fans around me. It was carnage. I fear Nailsworth may never recover.

[confused.com]

If is people like you that give CTFC a bad name!! Swilling pints of coffee and socialising. Can only hope you were caught on CCTV !!!!

[Chris FGR]

You are right this board is full of agent provocateurs !! Just gunning for a bust up in Nailsworth. Take these two anarchists for a start.

Confused.com - rather than suffer standing in the cold and being treated like cattle. Decides to breach the walls and go into the home end and create trouble. Oh wait a minute, or did he decide the inhumane treatment was not worth the bother and go and watch something else.

RCS - No ticket, so again decided to storm the walls and take over the home stand. Nope decides to sit in the pub instead.
First to agree that from time to time a few apologists try to defend the indefensible on here. However they are soon called out.

Hardly headline news that someone was drunk in a pub, and this is not condoning it in any way, people should be allowed to go about their daily lives in peace and quiet. To come on here claiming this is a hotbed of insurrection is laughable. We have enough trouble agreeing with ourselves, without spreading the love.

IMHO Nailsworth aka Forest Green, is the kind of place you drive through, not to and the thought of spending time in a social club in Stroud is quite alien to me.

Calling it inhumane treatment is a bit much tbf, it's just standing on an open terrace for 90 minutes. Next year those of you that come will have a temporary covered stand to sit in anyway, so that should be better for those that need to sit.

As for the "behaviour" of a few youngsters from both sides in and around the game, it's just boys being boys, your gonna get the odd bit of posturing/rough and tumble. They're harmless. Can't see a problem.

[Nham68]

I think that we’re being very defensive here toward the OP. He is highlighting an issue we have. Sorry to say, Cheltenham, has a hard core of chavvy fans who are an embarrassment. Small town mentality I’m afraid. And as a season ticket holder of over a decade, I just don’t get this anti FGR thing. I’m chuffed we have a local derby and competition .. long may it last ! Good on them , and so what if they have an outspoken chairman who has some vision and passion. Not my cup of tea, but can’t begrudge them..

I’ve been to a few away games too. Seen the same chavs there . But I guess all clubs have them ..if it wasn’t football, they would still be drunk somewhere on Saturdays causing a nuisance and hassle to members of the public.

[confused.com]

As a proud holder of a senior railcard, I would say that, on a cold winters afternoon, being ‘forced’ (if you choose to attend), to have to stand for around 2 hours, open to the elements, while others are allowed the comfort of shelter and a seat. Is in my eyes, both discrimatory and inhumane. Given that inhumane is described as lacking human qualities of compassion, cruel, harsh, sadistic. I can easily see how the term can be applied to FGR’s treatment of away fans. Especially to those that are older or physically impaired.
As has been said often on this and similar threads, no right thinking person condones ANY anti-social behavior, of any sort. My point is that, maybe FGR should have foreseen that their actions, may only exasperate the situation ? Giving a yob something else to complain about or feel aggrieved about, is only adding fuel to the fire.

In light of what happened at your game against Crewe, surely a more enlightened reaction was to offer comfort and shelter to those that required it. Rather than employ extra stewards and / or police, to make sure the animals were kept in their pen, exposed to the elements? After all, it is winter !!! The cattle are brought inside more often than not.

The time to take action is when it happens, eject the people and call the police. Get them arrested and let the law take its due course. I would quite happily see this irrespective of who anyone purports to support. The answer is not coming on saying a friend, told a relative who told me …..

[Chris FGR]

The problem is where would we put away fans where we can properly segregate?

We've sold season tickets for the North terrace so it would be difficult to force our fans there to move, and we only have one seated stand. The initial reason for doing it I don't really agree with, although it has worked in stopping away fans making much noise.

We have plans in place to improve the west terrace which the EFL are aware of so hopefully next time we play you you're fans that come will be a bit more comfortable.

[Robin]

The problem is where would we put away fans where we can properly segregate?

We've sold season tickets for the North terrace so it would be difficult to force our fans there to move, and we only have one seated stand. The initial reason for doing it I don't really agree with, although it has worked in stopping away fans making much noise.

We have plans in place to improve the west terrace which the EFL are aware of so hopefully next time we play you you're fans that come will be a bit more comfortable.

There were only a few hundred fans in the North terrace surely not that hard to move them for big games? I would imagine a big proportion of them were CTFC fans also, same with the seats, lots empty and very clear a lot of CTFC fans in there which was apparent when you score a number remained motionless.

[confused.com]

If premier league clubs can manage the moving of several hundred season ticket holders, when the need arises. Then I can’t see why any L2 club cannot do the same for a small amount of people. Clubs make sacrifices at the expense of their own fans e.g. CTFC give up part of the CF stand when a bigger than average away crowd is expected. I didn’t go because I can no longer stand open to the elements for 2 hours on a winters afternoon. I don’t expect by definition, to get a seat, but I do expect the opportunity to get one. However, I more or less do expect to be at least be under cover. This lack of respect by would what appear to be at a club level, has no place in 2017. It is obviously not a case of lack of money, so can only come to the conclusion that away support is very far down the priority list. Giving rise to the thought that they are actively discouraged from coming. A tactic, which in my case works. In the words of Jane Austen “my good opinion, once lost , is lost for ever”

[Chris FGR]

You say that lots remained motionless when we scored, but that was also true of the North stand when you scored right in front of it. If it really was full of your fans surely at least some would have reacted, which is what happened when Swindon were here.

Btw I absolutely agree that our board should have away fans facilities as a higher priority then they do, and our supporters club have been pushing the club on that issue.

At least once our new state of the art Zaha Hadid designed all seater stadium by the M5 is ready, away fans will have loads of seats and great facilities, easy access and a massive car park then these issues will be a thing of the past.

[Robin]

If you read threads on here Chris people were keeping their heads down because home fans were trying to get them ejected, there were several members of this forum in the North Stand and that's a very small sample. We'll never know how many CTFC fans were in the home end but your support was 800 up on the normal amount, pretty clear a good chunk were CTFC fans.

Such a shame really as the atmosphere was so poor on the day, CTFC fans very quiet, FGR fans very quiet apart from a small group of youngsters who tried to get some songs going but the noise didn't carry to the half way line.

[horlickfanclub]

Are you building without planning permission? Will supporters have to go to the Sub Rooms for refreshments and the loo?

[Chris FGR]

I enjoyed the atmosphere more a couple of years back when you were behind the goal, it fired our fans up and created a lot more buzz. Seems you were a bit too loud though, which made our regime start thinking of ways to stop that happening in big games, as pretty much ever since then for the really big games in the Conference away fans have had the West terrace and this season that has become permanent.

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

The problem is where would we put away fans where we can properly segregate?

We've sold season tickets for the North terrace so it would be difficult to force our fans there to move, and we only have one seated stand. The initial reason for doing it I don't really agree with, although it has worked in stopping away fans making much noise.

We have plans in place to improve the west terrace which the EFL are aware of so hopefully next time we play you you're fans that come will be a bit more comfortable.

The mistake was changing the set-up on the first place. Deciding in the summer to not offer away fans seating was a poor decision and a decent club would admit that and rectify it. There are a lot of passionate elderly, infirm and less abled fans in L2 who add to the enjoyable diverse fanbase at home and away games. For a club which prides itself on its sustainable ethics to willfully exclude these fans is inexcusable. One would hope that any FGR fans with STs who were asked to relocate for the season so away fans could be provided with seating would understand.

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

Hello
I would like to make a couple of points about your fans behavior on Saturday.
Firstly fans roaming about Stroud with a flare singing derogatory songs about FGR.
Secondly going into a social club in Nailsworth threatening anyone that was in there which actually lead to a sixteen year old lad getting struck.
My son was in the club when this happened and to be fare no one could believe it, especially considering one guy was around 50.
Forest Green have very few fans and certainly no hooligans so why the big hard club image.
If you have a problem with Dale Vince direct it at him not the fans as this is nothing short of bully boy tactics.
I myself have been following Bristol City home and away for 35 yrs and have been to Cheltenham many times in League games and friendlies withouthe a cross word ever being said.
Perhaps this was your opportunity to to play the big boys, my advice would be to give up as your actions were embarresing.

I would just like to correct you on the no hooligans part (can't be arsed with the rest tbh) having been on trains back from London on FGRs biggest days out in the last couple of years why has there been trouble involving FGR fans on both occasions ? resulting in them being escorted off the trains and arrested ?

Were even a few giving it large after their game in Gateshead last season which was very surprising given the small turnout.

[confused.com]

What??? The train service goes into the barren north east?? That should be stopped immediately!

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

What??? The train service goes into the barren north east?? That should be stopped immediately!

Home of the railway. One of the many North East inventions and innovations throughout history which the free world should be grateful for.

[King giraffe iii]

All football clubs attract idiots. Point scoring is a useless exercise and it isn't gainful to blame anyone on this forum for what happened in Nailsworth. If there was genuine trouble then it's someone else's responsibility to sort it out.

One day though, some mouthy juvenile will start on the wrong person and end up with a face embedded with glass or a blade in their stomach. Those kids don't think of that sort of thing.

With regard to facilities for away fans at FGR, DV has missed the boat. I don't see the problem in providing you with a block of seats in the stand. This cover issue is going to seem especially trite if DV (heaven forbid) gets his new stadium.