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Jon Palmer
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Robin
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If only two more you'd assume a striker and a left back are coming. I hope the striker is better than Wright and Holman.
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Nesty
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the defence has been found lacking at times all season with only one specialist full back on board, and now he is injured. we need two specialist full backs, a decent winger (Eisa brother?) and a striker - and that is minimum to stand any chance of the playoffs. If that is not our aim then I suggest we go with what we have, shave another 200 off the fan base an limp off into the future....
Robin
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I'd say we should aim for the top half now and concentrate on building a team that can challenge for top seven next season we are not too far off.
confused.com
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Sorry, but have to say our defence never fills me with confidence. I am hoping Manny and a left back will add some thing to it. Sellars MUST contribute more, don't think I have seen an assist from him (maybe he has, but can't remember it).
Why did Dawson take it upon himself to take the free kick on the edge of the area ? Thought we at leat had decided who id best at corners and free kicks ?
There is no point in taking quick balls to Moore, to see him run to half way, then he realises he can't really play like a winger, checks, allows them to regroup then passes the ball back. So a winger would be nice, speculate if needs be as we have little to lose this season I fear
horlickfanclub
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All good points confused. With O'Shaughnessy,Hinds,Davey,Page and Holman going or gone and Cranston injured. Three players added does not boost numbers.
CTFC_Supporter62
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With two loans staying and with the prospect of three coming in that brings us up to five. How many loan players can be included in a match day squad?
So unless they are going to be one or two free transfers don't think we are going to see more then the number GJ has already mentioned.
CTFC03
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Think you can only use 5 in a squad of 16.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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Fact Gary has ruled out signings with a fee suggests our poor recent form has left the board feeling we had to much to do and paying fees would be a waste. Had we had four more points I suspect it would be a different story.
theidlerich
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..well it's likely more of the same then, 3 or 4 loanees of which two may be worth their place. Two will prove to be no better than those replaced. Several should be on the transfer list; they have been named already in previous threads. Where is our youth policy - if we have potential then use it, or at least try it! Hints as RCS suggests leave little cause for optimism therefor the potential of seeing more 'fans' through the turnstiles unlikely.
Not yet disenchanted; but it won't take much.....
Robin
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It's ok to scream youth policy but how many do we have that look good enough to play Lloyd has potential but needs to be eased in from the bench, Thomas is out on loan and Bower is already on the bench.
London Exile
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Slightly concerned that GJ seems to be working transfer window to transfer window now and everything seems so short term and gets ripped up so quickly.
Last January he was unhappy with things and we brought in Manny, Scott Brown, Boyle, Winchester, Kyle Wootton, Tin Plavotic, Liam Davis , Alex Pike, and De Girolamo. Out went Griffiths, AMS, Hall, Whitehead, Arthur, Easah Suliman and Jonny Smith.
This year we need a few additions to make sure we are looking forward rather than nervously over our shoulders.
I was happy for this to be a season where we built with a view to 2018/19 but I’d ask questions about why we see be getting things so wrong when we initially sign players? Flatt and DOS surplus already after signing on in the summer?
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I think GJ got it pretty much spot on last year although Diego clearly came with baggage and Pike was unfortunate with injuries. This January I'd like to see us consolidate and build a team capable of finishing in the top half to give us the spring board to genuinely challenge next term. Ideally the loans coming in will be with a view to a permanent transfer, I'd like us to look at Morrell and Manny as investments like we did with Wilson and McCann back in the day.

If we look back to our summer transfer dealings Flatt was a bad signing based upon nostalgia but in fairness this was quickly rectified with the excellent addition of Flinders. Atangana has been injured a bit too much but when he has played has looked a big improvement over Storer, Eisa and Sellars although raw have been excellent finds. Of the loans Moore has been inconsistent but only Hinds has been a flop, whilst Morrell has been outstanding.
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Reuben Reid.
vickeryc
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Robin wrote:I think GJ got it pretty much spot on last year although Diego clearly came with baggage and Pike was unfortunate with injuries. This January I'd like to see us consolidate and build a team capable of finishing in the top half to give us the spring board to genuinely challenge next term. Ideally the loans coming in will be with a view to a permanent transfer, I'd like us to look at Morrell and Manny as investments like we did with Wilson and McCann back in the day.

If we look back to our summer transfer dealings Flatt was a bad signing based upon nostalgia but in fairness this was quickly rectified with the excellent addition of Flinders. Atangana has been injured a bit too much but when he has played has looked a big improvement over Storer, Eisa and Sellars although raw have been excellent finds. Of the loans Moore has been inconsistent but only Hinds has been a flop, whilst Morrell has been outstanding.
Completely unfair. Hinds has hardly started any games and most of his substitute appearances have been cameo appearances with virtually no chance to make an impact. He did start in one of the Paint Pot games and duly obliged by scoring a good goal before being subbed.
CTFC03
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What is it with this club never using strikers properly??
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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CTFC03 wrote:What is it with this club never using strikers properly??
Boo boys on the terraces. The fact that ex strikers love scoring or trying to score against us (Guinan, Thomas, for example) shows how little enjoyment they get playing in front of the WR crowd. I can count on one hand the number of strikers we have had in the League which the fans viewed positively.
confused.com
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Here is my 5 fingers for a start

Spencer
Naylor
Allsop
Grayson
Gillespie
Robin
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vickeryc wrote:
Robin wrote:I think GJ got it pretty much spot on last year although Diego clearly came with baggage and Pike was unfortunate with injuries. This January I'd like to see us consolidate and build a team capable of finishing in the top half to give us the spring board to genuinely challenge next term. Ideally the loans coming in will be with a view to a permanent transfer, I'd like us to look at Morrell and Manny as investments like we did with Wilson and McCann back in the day.

If we look back to our summer transfer dealings Flatt was a bad signing based upon nostalgia but in fairness this was quickly rectified with the excellent addition of Flinders. Atangana has been injured a bit too much but when he has played has looked a big improvement over Storer, Eisa and Sellars although raw have been excellent finds. Of the loans Moore has been inconsistent but only Hinds has been a flop, whilst Morrell has been outstanding.
Completely unfair. Hinds has hardly started any games and most of his substitute appearances have been cameo appearances with virtually no chance to make an impact. He did start in one of the Paint Pot games and duly obliged by scoring a good goal before being subbed.
I don't believe it's unfair every time I've seen him play he's contributed nothing and looked like a boy trying to play mens football. His contribution has been absolutely zero so how can you suggest he's been in any possible shape a success here?
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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confused.com wrote:Here is my 5 fingers for a start

Spencer
Naylor
Allsop
Grayson
Gillespie
In my experience of attending CTFC games Spencer was viewed as a clown who couldn't hit a barn door whilst Gillespie was derided for being a sick note hot head. I have witnessed individuals not celebrating when Gillespie scored after giving him dog's abuse all game.
confused.com
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
confused.com wrote:Here is my 5 fingers for a start

Spencer
Naylor
Allsop
Grayson
Gillespie
In my experience of attending CTFC games Spencer was viewed as a clown who couldn't hit a barn door whilst Gillespie was derided for being a sick note hot head. I have witnessed individuals not celebrating when Gillespie scored after giving him dog's abuse all game.

would disagree with both of those, Yes Gillespie turned out to be injury prone, but I believe he was popular. Spencer I would argue was never a target for the boo boys
vickeryc
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Robin wrote:
vickeryc wrote:
Robin wrote:I think GJ got it pretty much spot on last year although Diego clearly came with baggage and Pike was unfortunate with injuries. This January I'd like to see us consolidate and build a team capable of finishing in the top half to give us the spring board to genuinely challenge next term. Ideally the loans coming in will be with a view to a permanent transfer, I'd like us to look at Morrell and Manny as investments like we did with Wilson and McCann back in the day.

If we look back to our summer transfer dealings Flatt was a bad signing based upon nostalgia but in fairness this was quickly rectified with the excellent addition of Flinders. Atangana has been injured a bit too much but when he has played has looked a big improvement over Storer, Eisa and Sellars although raw have been excellent finds. Of the loans Moore has been inconsistent but only Hinds has been a flop, whilst Morrell has been outstanding.
Completely unfair. Hinds has hardly started any games and most of his substitute appearances have been cameo appearances with virtually no chance to make an impact. He did start in one of the Paint Pot games and duly obliged by scoring a good goal before being subbed.
I don't believe it's unfair every time I've seen him play he's contributed nothing and looked like a boy trying to play mens football. His contribution has been absolutely zero so how can you suggest he's been in any possible shape a success here?
Well, I disagree I'm afraid. In his relatively few cameo appearances I've seen more than a few glimpses of his ability, but no one can convince me that he's had sufficient opportunities to make an impact. I can see that we will never agree on this, so let's agree to disagree.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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Omar Bugiel from FGR. Out of favour and frozen out by Calamity Cooper, but would add firepower to our ranks.
asl
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Ex-cod, isn't he? Grimsby fans weren't exactly happy when he was released.
King giraffe iii
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:Omar Bugiel from FGR. Out of favour and frozen out by Calamity Cooper, but would add firepower to our ranks.
He's got the raw ability to come good but Cooper hasn't given him match time.
THECHOIRBOY
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You're thinking of Omar Bogle. He's playing couple of leagues higher.

The FGR one is ex worthing!
asl
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Ah! I presumed a spelling mistake - apologies!
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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THECHOIRBOY wrote:You're thinking of Omar Bogle. He's playing couple of leagues higher.

The FGR one is ex worthing!
Correct (not asl’s fault these foreign names sound similar). He left Grimsby for Wigan, and this summer moved to Cardiff for £1m, scoring 3 goals in 10 Championship appearances so far..

Very much a confidence player, and with Hurst freezing him out a lot of the time during the last two years he struggled for a consistent run and form.

Cod fans also turned against Lenell John-Lewis who is now flying high in L1 with Shrewsbury and also Nathan Arnold who is doing well at Lincoln.

One may infer these players had characteristics which encouraged the staunch UKIP/Brexit Cods to turn against them more quickly, though I will not make such a suggestion.

All good players, but seemed to be viewed by the Cods a bit like Spencer and Odejayi were by some CTFC fans - as a bit of a joke, only to be missed once gone.
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