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Ralph
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Having a coke bottle and season ticket thrown at him against Barnsley. Big defeat at home. Think he needs to take a break from football till CTFC job opens up again one day. Was on Small Heath Alliance site tonight. They pretty much hate him esp with Wolves and Villa doing so well
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What's Small Heath Alliance?

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Malabus wrote:What's Small Heath Alliance?

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Blue nose forum.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Malabus wrote:What's Small Heath Alliance?

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Blue nose forum.
Thanks...

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Ralph
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Malabus wrote:What's Small Heath Alliance?

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Call yourself a football fan? You don't know?
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Only one team worthy of my time and bandwidth in the Midlands.

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nickyjordan
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Its a sad day when Sir Steve needs a police escort to get down the tunnel.

I wonder if he might get his P45 today?
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Si Robin
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SC hasn’t got it at Championship level. Yes he can motivate players and get an extra 10% out of them, but every job he’s had at the second tier he’s been found wanting because you need more than heart and fight there.
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Jerry St Clair
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Ralph wrote:Having a coke bottle and season ticket thrown at him against Barnsley............They pretty much hate him esp with Wolves and Villa doing so well
Handy for the owners that they have a scapegoat is place to deflect from their failures.
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Robin
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Strange one really as football on 5 showed a stat recently that he was the only managed appointed during the season that had improved the team vs his predecessor, they seemed to suggest SC was doing a good job at St Andrews. Agree though if he gets sacked at Blues he won't get another Championship job will need to settle for league one or ambitious league two.
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he is saying they didnt strengthen in January - was that down to him? also saying a new manager wouldnt get any more out of the players than he is.
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Si Robin wrote:SC hasn’t got it at Championship level. Yes he can motivate players and get an extra 10% out of them, but every job he’s had at the second tier he’s been found wanting because you need more than heart and fight there.
Correct....only proven at tier 4 level.

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Malabus wrote:
Si Robin wrote:SC hasn’t got it at Championship level. Yes he can motivate players and get an extra 10% out of them, but every job he’s had at the second tier he’s been found wanting because you need more than heart and fight there.
Correct....only proven at tier 4 level.

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Bet he regrets not staying with us after our promotion from Div 3 to Div 2.
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CS85
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We need a man with some financial clout,get cotters back home and we'd be challenging top two of league 1 within a few seasons.
I still believe he could do it at championship level.but hes made many wrong choices,forest pompey and brum all have(or had) ( dodgy owners/financial issues.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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CS85 wrote:We need a man with some financial clout,get cotters back home and we'd be challenging top two of league 1 within a few seasons.
I still believe he could do it at championship level.but hes made many wrong choices,forest pompey and brum all have(or had) ( dodgy owners/financial issues.
Yeah. Taking over at Brum after recent events there probably the second worst job in the Championship after Sunderland. Both clubs deserve to be L1 next season given how they have been managed by owners.
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Ralph
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Nesty wrote:also saying a new manager wouldnt get any more out of the players than he is.
I think he's right with that statement
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Si Robin
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CS85 wrote:We need a man with some financial clout,get cotters back home and we'd be challenging top two of league 1 within a few seasons.
I still believe he could do it at championship level.but hes made many wrong choices,forest pompey and brum all have(or had) ( dodgy owners/financial issues.
His biggest mistake was leaving Stoke after a few months to join Howard Wilkinson as assistant manager at Sunderland, a club that were certainties for relegation in 02/03.

He did ok at Burnley, but every other job he’s been fire-fighting at that level.

He should have stayed with Stoke and built them up like he did us.
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Si Robin wrote:
CS85 wrote:We need a man with some financial clout,get cotters back home and we'd be challenging top two of league 1 within a few seasons.
I still believe he could do it at championship level.but hes made many wrong choices,forest pompey and brum all have(or had) ( dodgy owners/financial issues.
His biggest mistake was leaving Stoke after a few months to join Howard Wilkinson as assistant manager at Sunderland, a club that were certainties for relegation in 02/03.

He did ok at Burnley, but every other job he’s been fire-fighting at that level.

He should have stayed with Stoke and built them up like he did us.
I think he deserves some credit for stabilising and building Burnley, laying groundwork for someone with the ability to make the final push to the Premier League.
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CS85 wrote:We need a man with some financial clout,get cotters back home and we'd be challenging top two of league 1 within a few seasons.
I still believe he could do it at championship level.but hes made many wrong choices,forest pompey and brum all have(or had) ( dodgy owners/financial issues.
Forest had a very good owner when SC first went there.
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THECHOIRBOY
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Malabus wrote:
Si Robin wrote:SC hasn’t got it at Championship level. Yes he can motivate players and get an extra 10% out of them, but every job he’s had at the second tier he’s been found wanting because you need more than heart and fight there.
Correct....only proven at tier 4 level.

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I would say getting Bristol City promoted from league one to championship with three games of season left to play proved him to be successful in that league..
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Si Robin
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Si Robin wrote:
CS85 wrote:We need a man with some financial clout,get cotters back home and we'd be challenging top two of league 1 within a few seasons.
I still believe he could do it at championship level.but hes made many wrong choices,forest pompey and brum all have(or had) ( dodgy owners/financial issues.
His biggest mistake was leaving Stoke after a few months to join Howard Wilkinson as assistant manager at Sunderland, a club that were certainties for relegation in 02/03.

He did ok at Burnley, but every other job he’s been fire-fighting at that level.

He should have stayed with Stoke and built them up like he did us.
I think he deserves some credit for stabilising and building Burnley, laying groundwork for someone with the ability to make the final push to the Premier League.
He certainly deserves credit for it, I suspect that had he stayed he’d have done the same for Stoke
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THECHOIRBOY wrote:l
Malabus wrote:
Si Robin wrote:SC hasn’t got it at Championship level. Yes he can motivate players and get an extra 10% out of them, but every job he’s had at the second tier he’s been found wanting because you need more than heart and fight there.
Correct....only proven at tier 4 level.

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I would say getting Bristol City promoted from league one to championship with three games of season left to play proved him to be successful in that league..
Not much of an achievement with the money Lansdown was throwing at it.
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THECHOIRBOY
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Haha. Well OK Driscoll, Mcinnes etc Al before him failed.

As many managers demonstrate having money doesn't guarantee success.... For example in Nailsworth
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