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 Post subject: Re: Seroius questions over GJ now......
 Post Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 09:11 
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Ben is one of the few on here that talk football sense without blind bias! Don't know who he is but he obviously knows his football and can reason from a sound football base without resorting to ridiculous exaggeration and nonsense as in the post I referred to earlier about losing faith. Also he is not a toys out the pram man when things go awry. Seems like a true supporter. Probably has his season ticket sorted already
(Brilliant sense of humour too!)


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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
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And last time I looked Morecombe and FGR were two HOME games. The problem is a simple one. Several on the Nest do not like GJ and whatever he does is wrong. Sadly his success is long forgotten and he will never be given any scope or positivity, Hence after Morecombe the Nest is quiet, yesterday the knives are out. See also the ridiculous entry under "losing faith" where mindless nonsense replaces common sense.
e.g, Illias...How does the poster know that he will be available? Of course he doesn't!
e.g. Club Captain to FG. If this RUMOUR turns out to be true, it is hardly surprising let alone unthinkable. Get real. FGR can afford to buy all our players. We cannot compete financially with FGR This is 2018 not 1990
I could go on and ridicule most of the points made but will rest my case here.
My final comment is around loyalty and being a TRUE supporter. Those who threaten not to come again or not to buy a season ticket are hardly true fans or club supporters. If such fickle frailty turns up in their heads then they are clearly not genuine fans of CTFC and to be brutally honest we are better off without them.


Morecambe, FGR, and twenty others...we have won only 8! Only 30 goals in the 22 home games, average of 1.36 per game. Eight of these came in two games against Morecambe and Vale, meaning only 22 goals in the other 20 games. 25 goals conceded so 1.13 per game.

As you know I have been one of Gary’s biggest supporters. I am questioning him but not calling for the sack.

Not loyal? Season ticket for 19 years, more than half my life and since 2010 I have lived 270 miles away. It costs me over £100 to get to a home game, plus 10 hours of travelling and being away from my wife and not spending time doing the things I enjoy doing on a weekend. So if you think that isn’t loyal then that’s your problem. What is my incentive to do that when the likely result (63% of home games) is we don’t win and don’t score more than one goal?



Don't you know you are not loyal unless you can openly express your hurt at relegation or back the set up 100% whatecer happens. Some found relegation from L1 a bit more hurtful. Relegation to Conference was a case of c'est la vie. The one common thread with some is how they revel in living in the past - MY sacking (wrong in my opinion), winning conference, even to an extent SC - despite the heights he brought us to.
We need to be looking at TODAY, why are we so average, why are we getting turned over so often at home? Is it the budget ? Seems not as teams with worse are doing better. Is it the players, is is the management, is it team set up, we know its not the pitch this year, so are we left with muddy pitch players that can't handle a good surface? I don't know, but I sure know who should know


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If we don’t go in for Garrard someone else in L2 or L1 will - unless Borehamwood get promoted themselves that is.


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Oldun wrote:
Ben is one of the few on here that talk football sense without blind bias! Don't know who he is but he obviously knows his football and can reason from a sound football base without resorting to ridiculous exaggeration and nonsense as in the post I referred to earlier about losing faith. Also he is not a toys out the pram man when things go awry. Seems like a true supporter. Probably has his season ticket sorted already
(Brilliant sense of humour too!)


Well thats all our problems for next season sorted. Can sit back and enjoy the summer now. Only doubt in my mind, is why are probably our two most consistent players throwing their toys out of the pram. hmmmmmmmmmm will have all summer to give that thought


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There are a few on here who are happy for the players to take the blame when we lose and happy for the manager to take the credit when we win!

I'm sorry but performances are largely down to the manager. It's his squad, his budget, his team selection and his tactics. Yesterday
was a turning point for me.

It's no good talking about 'Gloucestershire's Cup Final' and then putting out a team like that. Ok Boyle is leaving but he's
still contracted to us and I'm sure he would have put in a shift being the professional player he is. Unfortunately Gary's petulance
meant this wasn't an option.

On too many occasions we've talked the talk but have not walked the walk. The squad is paper thin. Loads signed on but many mysteriously discarded after a few appearances.

I'm grateful to Gary for what he did. No one else could have acheived what he did in winning the national league. Unfortunately
that was two years ago and the club seems to lack ambition. Our better players are either going backwards or are moving on.

I understand the loyalty to Gary but to imagine that no one else could do better job than 16th on our budget is laughable. They ask
who else could come in and do better job. Well I don't have a list of available managers but we could do a lot worse than look
at Grant McCann. He has been unfairly sacked by Peterborough in my view and is probably itching to prove them wrong.


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Ihearye wrote:
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Oldun wrote:
And last time I looked Morecombe and FGR were two HOME games. The problem is a simple one. Several on the Nest do not like GJ and whatever he does is wrong. Sadly his success is long forgotten and he will never be given any scope or positivity, Hence after Morecombe the Nest is quiet, yesterday the knives are out. See also the ridiculous entry under "losing faith" where mindless nonsense replaces common sense.
e.g, Illias...How does the poster know that he will be available? Of course he doesn't!
e.g. Club Captain to FG. If this RUMOUR turns out to be true, it is hardly surprising let alone unthinkable. Get real. FGR can afford to buy all our players. We cannot compete financially with FGR This is 2018 not 1990
I could go on and ridicule most of the points made but will rest my case here.
My final comment is around loyalty and being a TRUE supporter. Those who threaten not to come again or not to buy a season ticket are hardly true fans or club supporters. If such fickle frailty turns up in their heads then they are clearly not genuine fans of CTFC and to be brutally honest we are better off without them.


Morecambe, FGR, and twenty others...we have won only 8! Only 30 goals in the 22 home games, average of 1.36 per game. Eight of these came in two games against Morecambe and Vale, meaning only 22 goals in the other 20 games. 25 goals conceded so 1.13 per game.

As you know I have been one of Gary’s biggest supporters. I am questioning him but not calling for the sack.

Not loyal? Season ticket for 19 years, more than half my life and since 2010 I have lived 270 miles away. It costs me over £100 to get to a home game, plus 10 hours of travelling and being away from my wife and not spending time doing the things I enjoy doing on a weekend. So if you think that isn’t loyal then that’s your problem. What is my incentive to do that when the likely result (63% of home games) is we don’t win and don’t score more than one goal?



Don't you know you are not loyal unless you can openly express your hurt at relegation or back the set up 100% whatecer happens. Some found relegation from L1 a bit more hurtful. Relegation to Conference was a case of c'est la vie. The one common thread with some is how they revel in living in the past - MY sacking (wrong in my opinion), winning conference, even to an extent SC - despite the heights he brought us to.
We need to be looking at TODAY, why are we so average, why are we getting turned over so often at home? Is it the budget ? Seems not as teams with worse are doing better. Is it the players, is is the management, is it team set up, we know its not the pitch this year, so are we left with muddy pitch players that can't handle a good surface? I don't know, but I sure know who should know


Kept my ST when we went non-league. Ten hour round trip and over £100 to watch non-league football. But not loyal. Lol.

I am not even clamouring for Gary to be sacked. Just saying that spending another £375 when a) I don’t make any games and b) the games I do make are likely to end in a low scoring draw or defeat is not good value. The games I have been to this season have been tortuous and miserable affairs waiting for the final whistle out of some sort of masochistic obligation.

Sure, if Gary, or whoever changes philosophy and home games become enjoyable once again rather than painful I will get a half season ticket and get back on the wagon.


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Good post by DRGM.


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I came away from the ground yesterday feeling pretty low, and woke up this morning feeling pretty low too. It was THE game that I didn’t want see us lose. We don’t have a divine right to win games and neither do we have a divine right to finish better than mid-table. However, I still believe that Gary Johnson is the man for the job and would not be one advocating he should go. It would be a hell of a gamble getting rid of him and as one or two others have said, the risk of relegation would be a serious worry. It’s important we don’t lose League status. Others have said the Club lacks ambition, that’s not Johnson’s fault, it needs investment for us to succeed, and that’s not always guaranteed either, but with Johnson at the helm with no investment we are safe in League 2.


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Whilst I would want investment I don't agree with the statement that we need investment to succeed especially when you see clubs like Accrington and Wycombe challenging with a smaller budge.t


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The big test for Accrington and possibly Wycombe, will be how they fare next season. Don’t forget CTFC have reached the heights of promotion to League 1 on two occasions, but without investment it was not sustainable on either occasion and we eventually got relegated. Neither of those promotions were covered in glory apart from the double over Leeds. Accrington might have a similar experience, but I wish them well.


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Maybe the club should investigate GJ's 'altercation' with a fan after yesterday's game.


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I-Love-CTFC wrote:
Maybe the club should investigate GJ's 'altercation' with a fan after yesterday's game.


Just hand bags. If a fan gives it out then fair play to any player or manager who gives it back. If the fan can’t take it then don’t dish it out. Simple.


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Oldun wrote:
Ben is one of the few on here that talk football sense without blind bias! Don't know who he is but he obviously knows his football and can reason from a sound football base without resorting to ridiculous exaggeration and nonsense as in the post I referred to earlier about losing faith. Also he is not a toys out the pram man when things go awry. Seems like a true supporter. Probably has his season ticket sorted already
(Brilliant sense of humour too!)


Swipe right.


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Oldun wrote:
Ben is one of the few on here that talk football sense without blind bias! Don't know who he is but he obviously knows his football and can reason from a sound football base without resorting to ridiculous exaggeration and nonsense as in the post I referred to earlier about losing faith. Also he is not a toys out the pram man when things go awry. Seems like a true supporter. Probably has his season ticket sorted already
(Brilliant sense of humour too!)


Ben knows his football - he stated earlier in the week Wright should start up with Mo and was critical of the line up and delay to substitution.

If I didn’t have to fork out £100 and ten hours traveling a game maybe I would renew, but that on top of £375 when I only make half the games is not justifiable when the overriding emotion in most games “wish I didn’t bother and what about all those more useful and more enjoyable things I could have done instead.” If that makes me unloyal and not a true fan I hold my hands up.

It will be a wrench; I have had my seat since the first day In2P went on sale and it will be weird to go to a game and not sit there. I renewed after three relegations so hardly throwing toys out of the pram is it.


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Hardly supportive either!


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Del Boy wrote:
Oldun wrote:
Ben is one of the few on here that talk football sense without blind bias! Don't know who he is but he obviously knows his football and can reason from a sound football base without resorting to ridiculous exaggeration and nonsense as in the post I referred to earlier about losing faith. Also he is not a toys out the pram man when things go awry. Seems like a true supporter. Probably has his season ticket sorted already
(Brilliant sense of humour too!)


Swipe right.

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Oldun wrote:
Hardly supportive either!


Do you actually ever sit down and read what you write? Who in God's name are you to judge what is a good supporter or not? Why should someone be judged for not renewing a season ticket when as explained he only makes a limited amout of games. Does that fact make him a better supporter than you, becuase he still pays for games he knows he won't be able to see. Lets not forget RCS and other absentee ST holders are counted in the weekly attendance figures, Would be interesting to know how many do actually put their @ss on a seat. I have a ST but as already posted, this is the first full season I have not prioritised the football on a Saturday.

I pay dental insurance too, but don't go there every week either - for the same reason, it is no longer enjoyable. When the Management produce a team that at least competes, I will then prioritise. I dont expect success, I would like it. But playing a lone (small) striker at home in a derby. cup final, give something to the fans etc etc is just not on. Inexplicable. The fact it 'worked' against Morcambe is a tenious piece of evidence


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Two deflections helped against Morecambe . I would prefer to enjoy supporting my club than finding it a depressing experience. Watching the same tactics next season has no interest for me.
I would like to see the evidence that Oldun has on his knowledge that those for change are a "minority".


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horlickfanclub wrote:
Two deflections helped against Morecambe . I would prefer to enjoy supporting my club than finding it a depressing experience. Watching the same tactics next season has no interest for me.
I would like to see the evidence that Oldun has on his knowledge that those for change are a "minority".

Evidence is there for all to see. If you disagree with him QED you are a minority


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Thanks Ihear. It is all clear now.
After rewatching the post match interview I am concerned that the Manager has not taken any responsibilty for the performance. Some players were off their game but his initial selection then inflexibilty of mind for too long massively contributed to the negativity of the day. A few weeks ago he was shaking things up at half time or around the hour mark and there was a response. He is now hesitant, can't remember who shot when ,needed prompting on his formation. He looks tired . I hope the Chairman spends some time at Seasons this week to help him get some balance and energy and maybe as the week goes on some reassessment of attitudes may occur. I would love to see a strong cohesive performance at Cambridge and next home game so Gary Johnson can retire on a high.


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horlickfanclub wrote:
I would love to see a strong cohesive performance at Cambridge and next home game so Gary Johnson can retire on a high.


20:05
PB: The manager will be here next year and we are offering new contracts to several players, so we will have that continuity.

20:21
PB: We have NO intention of changing our manager and Gary will be our manager next season. He’s one of the best managers in our league without question.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/s ... ve-1316389

Unless something has changed in the last month, he won't be retiring after the Coventry match.


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A month is a long time in football and politics.


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So - as expected. We lose and a load of posters whove been itching to get on here break their ban and start posting again. They went quiet whilst we had a good run!

Just to be clear of the facts and then we put this to bed:

1) Ralph, board admin, confirms that this board is much more active after a loss than a win
2) I asked a direct question about which posters go to games regularly. It was a total of about five
3) Only one person on here ever offers to back their view up in the real world - me. Its not a threat, its a polite offer to meet anyone who disagrees. Im available by PM but nobody takes menup on it!!!!

Only solution i have is that the moaning minority who dont go to games shout abuse when we lose but wont back that in person

Sack Johnson???? Utterly ridiuclous. Back to pre-school


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So - as expected. We lose and a load of posters whove been itching to get on here break their ban and start posting again. They went quiet whilst we had a good run!

Just to be clear of the facts and then we put this to bed:

1) Ralph, board admin, confirms that this board is much more active after a loss than a win
2) I asked a direct question about which posters go to games regularly. It was a total of about five
3) Only one person on here ever offers to back their view up in the real world - me. Its not a threat, its a polite offer to meet anyone who disagrees. Im available by PM but nobody takes menup on it!!!!

Only solution i have is that the moaning minority who dont go to games shout abuse when we lose but wont back that in person

Sack Johnson???? Utterly ridiuclous. Back to pre-school


1. The easy and obvious answer to point a is that on the whole a lot more people see them losing than see them winning. Hence the up in comments when there is a loss. Even the win over Morcambe was uninspring. Not rocket science.

2. You actually think everybody respoinded to your 'poll'. I certainly didn't. What you are actiually saying is that of those that responded 5 go regularly.

3. Are you some kind of relationship expert. Why on earth would anyone want to 'talk through' their issues with you ???? Your opinion is no worse or no better than anyone else. You really dont live in the real world, or else you don't get out enough.

Still waiting for an answer re your announcement that the only manager we could get is a failed L2 manager or taking a punt on a non league manager. As I asked, which one of those two groupings did GJ belong to ??

People are asking for the situation to be reviewed nobody is saying sack now. People like yourself are so blinkered that you can't even see that your so called improvement as been minimal. I do continue to support the team like I have done for the last 30+ years. However, what they give me back has declined considerably. So I don't need any advice on how or how not to support.


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Ben2 wrote:
So - as expected. We lose and a load of posters whove been itching to get on here break their ban and start posting again. They went quiet whilst we had a good run!

Just to be clear of the facts and then we put this to bed:

1) Ralph, board admin, confirms that this board is much more active after a loss than a win
2) I asked a direct question about which posters go to games regularly. It was a total of about five
3) Only one person on here ever offers to back their view up in the real world - me. Its not a threat, its a polite offer to meet anyone who disagrees. Im available by PM but nobody takes menup on it!!!!

Only solution i have is that the moaning minority who dont go to games shout abuse when we lose but wont back that in person

Sack Johnson???? Utterly ridiuclous. Back to pre-school


BTW - when was the good 'run'? Please define a good run


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Ihearye wrote:
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So - as expected. We lose and a load of posters whove been itching to get on here break their ban and start posting again. They went quiet whilst we had a good run!

Just to be clear of the facts and then we put this to bed:

1) Ralph, board admin, confirms that this board is much more active after a loss than a win
2) I asked a direct question about which posters go to games regularly. It was a total of about five
3) Only one person on here ever offers to back their view up in the real world - me. Its not a threat, its a polite offer to meet anyone who disagrees. Im available by PM but nobody takes menup on it!!!!

Only solution i have is that the moaning minority who dont go to games shout abuse when we lose but wont back that in person

Sack Johnson???? Utterly ridiuclous. Back to pre-school


BTW - when was the good 'run'? Please define a good run


I would say October to December was decent - we closed to six points of play offs and our points per game ratio, excluding the first seven games of the season, was 65 points trajectory. This gave the hope going into Christmas and New Year that winning the three home games vs Newport, Yeovil and Barnet would spur us on. Unfortunately as we know those games were failures, with Barnet and Yeovil being especially woeful. We have bumbled along ever since. The Yeovil game was really damaging - I have friends who drew the line at that one and haven’t / won’t gone to a game since.


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I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life


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Ben2 wrote:
I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life


Plenty of examples have been given. Gary himself has already said we don’t want to sell Eisa and no club in L1 can afford him. You really think people are only getting excited about Eisa to be able to criticise the club in the future? You sad freak.


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Ben2 wrote:
So - as expected. We lose and a load of posters whove been itching to get on here break their ban and start posting again. They went quiet whilst we had a good run!

Just to be clear of the facts and then we put this to bed:

1) Ralph, board admin, confirms that this board is much more active after a loss than a win
2) I asked a direct question about which posters go to games regularly. It was a total of about five
3) Only one person on here ever offers to back their view up in the real world - me. Its not a threat, its a polite offer to meet anyone who disagrees. Im available by PM but nobody takes menup on it!!!!

Only solution i have is that the moaning minority who dont go to games shout abuse when we lose but wont back that in person

Sack Johnson???? Utterly ridiuclous. Back to pre-school


I guess it helps that if when people do PM you they get a reply.


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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Ben2 wrote:
I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life


Plenty of examples have been given. Gary himself has already said we don’t want to sell Eisa and no club in L1 can afford him. You really think people are only getting excited about Eisa to be able to criticise the club in the future? You sad freak.


Don’t be ridiculous RCS. People are not getting excited they are posting shite bordering on the insane on a fans message board for that purpose


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Ben2 wrote:
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Ben2 wrote:
I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life


Plenty of examples have been given. Gary himself has already said we don’t want to sell Eisa and no club in L1 can afford him. You really think people are only getting excited about Eisa to be able to criticise the club in the future? You sad freak.


Don’t be ridiculous RCS. People are not getting excited they are posting shite bordering on the insane on a fans message board for that purpose


Well personally I am excited we have Eisa and that if we are to sell it will only be for an offer we genuinely can’t refuse.


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Ben2 wrote:
I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life



What are you wittering on about?

I am no longer going to get so affected by results because after 20 years of hardly missing a home game I am
no longer going to ensure my diary is clear every other Saturday. I will pick and choose my games from now on.
This is my way of not letting myself get affected by results. If the club shows some ambition then I may change
my mind.

Last Saturday was not acceptable. FGR were poor at the back and lacked confidence early on. Playing one
up front at home against a team in such poor form showed a lack of belief in the players, a lack of confidence and
worst of all a lack of desire to win the game. This happened in both of our FA cup games in the last two seasons.
It seems that when it comes to really wanting to win a match we seem to fall short

It was built up as Gloucestershire's Cup Final but Gary contrived to hand the initiative to the opposition. A win
would have added some gloss to a poor season. Everyone in the Skips Stand seemed up for it but sadly it was
yet another occasion where everything fell flat

Fair play if you're happy to muddle along for another season. I am not.


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drgm wrote:
Ben2 wrote:
I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life



What are you wittering on about?

I am no longer going to get so affected by results because after 20 years of hardly missing a home game I am
no longer going to ensure my diary is clear every other Saturday. I will pick and choose my games from now on.
This is my way of not letting myself get affected by results. If the club shows some ambition then I may change
my mind.

Last Saturday was not acceptable. FGR were poor at the back and lacked confidence early on. Playing one
up front at home against a team in such poor form showed a lack of belief in the players, a lack of confidence and
worst of all a lack of desire to win the game. This happened in both of our FA cup games in the last two seasons.
It seems that when it comes to really wanting to win a match we seem to fall short

It was built up as Gloucestershire's Cup Final but Gary contrived to hand the initiative to the opposition. A win
would have added some gloss to a poor season. Everyone in the Skips Stand seemed up for it but sadly it was
yet another occasion where everything fell flat

Fair play if you're happy to muddle along for another season. I am not.

The best way to react to the " cyclops " posters on this site is to ignore them and their flat-earth views !


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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
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So - as expected. We lose and a load of posters whove been itching to get on here break their ban and start posting again. They went quiet whilst we had a good run!

Just to be clear of the facts and then we put this to bed:

1) Ralph, board admin, confirms that this board is much more active after a loss than a win
2) I asked a direct question about which posters go to games regularly. It was a total of about five
3) Only one person on here ever offers to back their view up in the real world - me. Its not a threat, its a polite offer to meet anyone who disagrees. Im available by PM but nobody takes menup on it!!!!

Only solution i have is that the moaning minority who dont go to games shout abuse when we lose but wont back that in person

Sack Johnson???? Utterly ridiuclous. Back to pre-school


BTW - when was the good 'run'? Please define a good run


I would say October to December was decent - we closed to six points of play offs and our points per game ratio, excluding the first seven games of the season, was 65 points trajectory. This gave the hope going into Christmas and New Year that winning the three home games vs Newport, Yeovil and Barnet would spur us on. Unfortunately as we know those games were failures, with Barnet and Yeovil being especially woeful. We have bumbled along ever since. The Yeovil game was really damaging - I have friends who drew the line at that one and haven’t / won’t gone to a game since.


At least you answer the question :) I guess we all have our own definitions of what is a 'good run'. I look at it as putting together a string of winning games (not 2 :) ). However in the period you mention we did win one more than we lost. So if definitely was a purple patch, if not a run. What kind of worries me about the Ben2 view on life is that we are meant to come on and wax lyrical after what is all to often a scrappy win (well tbh at home wins have not been that often). It is so hard to get enthused about a win, if it has been a 90 minute struggle of ineffectual football, that you have to endure. Irrespective of the victory. For myself the large majority of home victories have left me going home thinking "at least its 3 points".


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Ben2 wrote:
I tell you what - let me try another version of the same game

I’ll pretend Mo Eisa is worth £1 million. I know he isn’t - everyone who knows literally ANYTHING about football knows this to be utter tosh. But I’ll pretend it to be true and will argue with anyone who says otherwise. When asked for any precedent or similar player to back it up I’ll withdraw, until a few weeks later I pretend he’s now worth more.

What possible purpose could this little game serve? So when Eisa is sold for an undisclosed fee of the realistic £2-400k I can then get to the point of my pretending-game - I can have a go at baker and Johnson who know not-nearly-as-much as me about football and business and running a football club.

From the outside that may seem a little bit odd, perhaps even unhinged. Perhaps if I did that I should just have a little think about my life


H, like anything else in this world, is worth what anyone is prepared to pay for him. So I truely fail to see the point you are making. Valuations on this forum have varied a lot. As you would expect. After all your realistic amount leaves quite a large margin for "I told you so".
Still waiting to hear if GJ falls into your Failed L2 or punt on non league, categories. You do say that is the only sort of manager we can attract.


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