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Nesty
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only 4 teams have scored more goals than us and only 4 teams have conceded more (Swindon level with us)

the lack of specialist full backs defies logicm we must address this in the summer
vickeryc
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Fully agree, though it should be acknowledged that Forster's prolonged absence has had a significant impact.
Mike1953
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Agree with Nesty's analysis. But it goes further than that. We need also to recruit both a strong, experienced, central defender to partner and mentor Will Boyle, and an experienced 'destroyer' in midfield. Characters similar, in recent years, to Steve Elliott and Kyle Storer, but a little better. And I know this won't happen, because of the apparent attacking philosophy Gary Johnson has, but game management at times needs a stronger defensive bias - that is to defend a lead or draw situation rather than to gamble on scoring another goal.
everyman
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Mike1953 wrote:Agree with Nesty's analysis. But it goes further than that. We need also to recruit both a strong, experienced, central defender to partner and mentor Will Boyle, and an experienced 'destroyer' in midfield. Characters similar, in recent years, to Steve Elliott and Kyle Storer, but a little better. And I know this won't happen, because of the apparent attacking philosophy Gary Johnson has, but game management at times needs a stronger defensive bias - that is to defend a lead or draw situation rather than to gamble on scoring another goal.
We often concede the midfield,to lightweight or not fit enough to compete there.Playing 2 in front of back 4 would help.
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Ihearye
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Mike1953 wrote:Agree with Nesty's analysis. But it goes further than that. We need also to recruit both a strong, experienced, central defender to partner and mentor Will Boyle, and an experienced 'destroyer' in midfield. Characters similar, in recent years, to Steve Elliott and Kyle Storer, but a little better. And I know this won't happen, because of the apparent attacking philosophy Gary Johnson has, but game management at times needs a stronger defensive bias - that is to defend a lead or draw situation rather than to gamble on scoring another goal.

One small guy up front, a strong attacking bias ?
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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But saying that, how many 0-0, 0-1 or 1-1 games have we had where putting the ball in the net as been the problem?

Not just the number of goals but how they are spread out. No use scoring three past Morecambe if you record zero vs Newport and Carlisle. 1-0, 1-0 and 1-1 would have got three more points than 3-0, 0-0 and 0-1.

Same way Crewe have scored fewer goals than us and conceded more yet have more wins and are a point behind.
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Shade
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Consistency. If we all had that it would be a very even league...
everyman
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everyman wrote:
Mike1953 wrote:Agree with Nesty's analysis. But it goes further than that. We need also to recruit both a strong, experienced, central defender to partner and mentor Will Boyle, and an experienced 'destroyer' in midfield. Characters similar, in recent years, to Steve Elliott and Kyle Storer, but a little better. And I know this won't happen, because of the apparent attacking philosophy Gary Johnson has, but game management at times needs a stronger defensive bias - that is to defend a lead or draw situation rather than to gamble on scoring another goal.
We often concede the midfield,to lightweight or not fit enough to compete there.Playing 2 in front of back 4 would help.
Defend from the front is the current mantra,we don`t perhaps that`s why we concede so many goals.?
JasonFailor
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Ihearye wrote:One small guy up front
...who we play long balls up to most of the time. Defies sense!
Robin
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I feel we've had several weak links at the back with Flatt, Taylor Moore and Grimes probably our weakest players this season that tells it's own story. Also we had to play Winchester (our best attacking midfielder) there for a period.

An experienced centre half is a must this summer.
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Ihearye
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Mo of course. That is unless you think that anyone (guessing) around 6' is of large build? He is too small a build to be playing long balls too. Morre muscular defenders invaribly come out high on the percentages of winning a heading battle. ceetainly seems to be the case on the matches I have watched. He doesn't win many headers.
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