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horlickfanclub
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Flinders 6 No defense in front of him but kicking poor and a bit flat footed at times.
Winchester 6 Caught out of position a lot but tried to be creative.
Ilias 6 Not his best game but stuck to the task.
Rodon 1
Boyle 5

Pell 5 better second half
Atangana 6 battled away but not at his best
Morrell 3 lightweight , fell over and lost the ball a lot
Sellars 1 won a couple of fouls but spent most of the time running across the pitch in to trouble.

Wright 6 occupied the defence with his usual effort but no finish.
Eisa 6 A few good efforts but lacked service

Odelusi 7 Strong and positive going forward .
Grimes 4 Missed headers, miskicked , misplaced passes. Tries but not up to it.
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Shade
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Not a lot Flinders could have done for any of the goals but he kept the score down to six (I just laughed to myself as I typed that...kept the score down to six).
Thought Winchester looked like he couldn't be bothered. Either that or he's still carrying a bit of an injury. Several times he really didn't chase back anywhere near as hard as I'd expect when their left winger got away.

Pretty much agree with the rest. 4-4-2 isn't a formation that these players can handle but plenty were calling for 2 up front. Looked much better when 4-5-1/4-3-3 and caused them some problems and they were a bit lucky to not concede a second and third soon after our penalty but the ball just wouldn't drop to us. Sanmi was also pretty adamant he should have had a penalty for, I think, being flattened by the keeper when he came for and missed a cross.
Robin
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Harsh on Rodon, I don't believe he was that bad certainly in comparison to Sellar or Morrell on Saturday also felt Boyle was one of our better players.
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Shade
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True, he wasn't the worst but that fourth goal...what the hell was he thinking? The only word I can think to describe it is Grimes-esque.
Robin
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Yes agree he made a bad mistake but Ilias also did for the first or second getting caught on the ball by McNulty to give away the free kick.
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Lord Elpuz
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horlickfanclub wrote:Flinders 6 No defense in front of him but kicking poor and a bit flat footed at times.
We now know why Scotty was struggling with his kicking and appeared flat footed. The fact he requires hip surgery in close season explains that away.
CTFC03
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He needs to have a hip operation but let's play him against a team that's chasing promotion where he might have a busy afternoon, that is absolutely bonkers, he is crucial to us and needs to be protected. That is very poor management.
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CTFC03 wrote:He needs to have a hip operation but let's play him against a team that's chasing promotion where he might have a busy afternoon, that is absolutely bonkers, he is crucial to us and needs to be protected. That is very poor management.
Not sure I'd agree with that. The medical staff at the club will know vastly more about this situation than any of us on here and would have made a decision based on their expertise, possibly including taking advice from specialists outside the club.

GJ would have picked him based on the information provided to him by these people, and they clearly considered it to be ok. That notwithstanding, this is something they've probably been aware of for a while.

Meanwhile I can only begin to imagine the reaction on here to things if we had have played Rhys and conceded six...
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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CTFC03 wrote:He needs to have a hip operation but let's play him against a team that's chasing promotion where he might have a busy afternoon, that is absolutely bonkers, he is crucial to us and needs to be protected. That is very poor management.
Another medic on the RNF. We’ve heart experts giving Gary advice and now a hip expert.

Save money and sack the club doctor and physio, the RNF can do it for free
CTFC03
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Yes they would have known but the season is done and planning should be under way, if he's carrying an injury it shouldn't be risked especially your first choice keeper who has at times kept the score down by quite a distance, I think it's bonkers that he played, could have made it worse and been out for longer then we have to get another keeper in because we decided to take a risk in game 45 when the season is done. It's absolutely outrageous it really is.
kiaora84
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I actually blame Nige for the first goal. Instead of holding the ball or standing in the wa,y he threw the ball to the Cov player whilst he was out of position allowing them to take a quick free kick. Poor game management
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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CTFC03 wrote:Yes they would have known but the season is done and planning should be under way, if he's carrying an injury it shouldn't be risked especially your first choice keeper who has at times kept the score down by quite a distance, I think it's bonkers that he played, could have made it worse and been out for longer then we have to get another keeper in because we decided to take a risk in game 45 when the season is done. It's absolutely outrageous it really is.
How do you know that the severity of the injury and need to operate was not apparent until after the Coventry game, or even only arose as the result of the game?

You are accusing medical professionals of wilfully risking the health of a player for no reason. I think that is absolutely outrageous.
CTFC03
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Not in the slightest, all I'm saying is that there's a bigger picture here, he's carrying something and I don't think he should have played because of it.
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CTFC03 wrote:Not in the slightest, all I'm saying is that there's a bigger picture here, he's carrying something and I don't think he should have played because of it.
And as has been explained already the medical staff employed and consulted by the club gave the green light for him to play. This assumes, as RCS mentioned in his post, that the injury wasn't picked up during the game on Saturday.

Assuming that you are not A) Scott Flinders; B) a member of his family or friends; C) a staff member at the club or D) a qualified medical professional I would be of a mind to consider that your understanding (like mine) of his injury is negligible at best and would advise leaving judgement of such matters to those who have proper knowledge and expertise.
CTFC03
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Is that you Gary :lol:
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CTFC03 wrote:Is that you Gary :lol:
Great response, did it take long to think that up?! :lol:

I guess I'm probably not Gary seeing as I know nothing about Flinder's injury, as clearly stated in my previous post.
CTFC03
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No some of us do actually have jobs..
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CTFC03 wrote:No some of us do actually have jobs..
Eh? You've got a job, well done.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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Sprout Picker wrote:
CTFC03 wrote:No some of us do actually have jobs..
Eh? You've got a job, well done.
We already established he is a medical professional who can diagnose injury from a single line in a newspaper article.
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