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I am sorry but this all needs sorting now! its two weeks or so before the start of the season and we are going to be left short. Get a deal done and lets move on and get someone in !
I understand the point, but surely we wouldn't sell if the club's valuation is not being met! The club has frequently, and rightly, been criticised in the past for selling decent players for well short of what they are worth.MittonRobin wrote:I am sorry but this all needs sorting now! its two weeks or so before the start of the season and we are going to be left short. Get a deal done and lets move on and get someone in !
Correct.. If they don't meet what we value him at, lets keep himvickeryc wrote:I understand the point, but surely we wouldn't sell if the club's valuation is not being met! The club has frequently, and rightly, been criticised in the past for selling decent players for well short of what they are worth.MittonRobin wrote:I am sorry but this all needs sorting now! its two weeks or so before the start of the season and we are going to be left short. Get a deal done and lets move on and get someone in !
the point being made is we are one or two strikers short even if Mo staysvickeryc wrote:I understand the point, but surely we wouldn't sell if the club's valuation is not being met! The club has frequently, and rightly, been criticised in the past for selling decent players for well short of what they are worth.MittonRobin wrote:I am sorry but this all needs sorting now! its two weeks or so before the start of the season and we are going to be left short. Get a deal done and lets move on and get someone in !
My opinion is; the closer to the start of season 18/19 Eisa price inflats and now must be worth 2 millionm sterling. Not in our interest he is sold days before the season starts.
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The problem is what realistic targets are out there now as clubs will also not want to sell at this point. We missed out on Akinde, I am struggling to think of other realistic targets beyond championship reserves or league one players who are unlikely to make starting teams. Even if we get the £1.5 million I can't see us paying more than about £150,000 on a single player when you add wages on top.
Note. I qoute that amount as we were interested in Akinde who went to Lincoln for a similar fee.
Note. I qoute that amount as we were interested in Akinde who went to Lincoln for a similar fee.
Do you see us challenging for promotion with two unproven non league players, Graham and Lloyd? I'm all for giving a few potential prospects a chance however players like Mo are very much the exception rather than the rule. Ultimately I feel we will either buy a Championship reserve for a decent fee or take someone from league one on high wages with a small fee. Of course we may do both as we need at least two strikers.Uppy wrote:It doesn’t need to be proven players. How many of us knew Eisa before he signed? A few non-league players with potential would satisfy me.
This lad scored 9 in 15 at Crawley last year, must be a realistic target for us:
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Don't panic Robin. There is goal potential in all positions. What did we have up front at this stage last season?
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Lots of deals get done just before the start of season
Free agents getting tetchy with the waiting game plus loans once injuries are known.
Replacement for Eisa could also just be in the form of a much more expensive loan deal than we normally get.
Free agents getting tetchy with the waiting game plus loans once injuries are known.
Replacement for Eisa could also just be in the form of a much more expensive loan deal than we normally get.
A much more expensive loan deal is not beyond the realm of possibility but feel the board will get negative publicity if we sell Mo for £1.5 million and we get some non-league player and Bristol City reserve. It send a far more positive message if we break our transfer record and get a player of our own rather than waste £2k a week on a loan player.
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Bobby Reid (former ctfc-loanee)signed for Cardiff for a reported £10million.He has scored 29 goals in 176 games,21 last season,is he that much better than Eisa ?Robin wrote:A much more expensive loan deal is not beyond the realm of possibility but feel the board will get negative publicity if we sell Mo for £1.5 million and we get some non-league player and Bristol City reserve. It send a far more positive message if we break our transfer record and get a player of our own rather than waste £2k a week on a loan player.
But Reid is £10m and Eisa is only £1.5m, which reflects that he hasn't been there and done it. That's £8.5m extra for having a bit of a track record.Artemis wrote:He is a proven scorer at Championship level. Eisa isn't. But GJs view is that he will. Hence us wanting top whack for a L2 proven goalscorer plus, no doubt, add ons.
Maybe we should loan him to a Championship club first so they can see what they're getting. When he's banged in 15 in the Championship by January, we up the asking price to £10m. (Wouldn't it be nice to find a club so foolish...)
If it's true that Sunderland (and others) have only offered £1m when the Robins have said their valuation is £1.5m, they are either: (i) unconvinced by the Robins' valuation; or (ii) trying to take the p*ss. Either way, the club have Mo under contract and should be under no pressure to sell - other than the understandable concern that, should the asking price be offered at the last minute, this could compromise our chances of getting replacement(s). If Gary hasn't been able to line up suitable replacements, then it would not be in the club's interest to sell at the last minute. It's not as if his contract is about to expire within 12 months.
I sincerely hope that, whenever Mo is sold, the club: (a) stick to their valuation as a minimum; and (b) ensure there are appropriate sell-on clauses. Don't let wealthy clubs get away with ripping us off!
I sincerely hope that, whenever Mo is sold, the club: (a) stick to their valuation as a minimum; and (b) ensure there are appropriate sell-on clauses. Don't let wealthy clubs get away with ripping us off!