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Robin
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Woken up to the news that Steve Cotterill is odds on favourite to take, thoughts?

For me he'd be a great appointment but not sure if this is founded or not as expecting it to be either Carsley, Bowyer or Gill.
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Robin
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For anyone interested here are the odds:
Steve Cotterill
4/6
Russell Milton
6/1
Jack Lester
10/1
Kenny Miller
12/1
Gary Bowyer
16/1
Gary Caldwell
16/1
Ian Holloway
16/1

Paul Buckle
16/1
Phil Brown
16/1
Simon Grayson
16/1
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Robin
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Surely neither Russ Milton or Jack Lester have any realistic chance and no idea why Paul Buckle is even on there! Interestingly no Jerry Gill or Lee Carsley two names being touted a lot.

Simon Grayson or Ian Holloway would be fantastic appointments but seem a stretch to me.
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Del Boy
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Don't read too much into bookmakers' odds. They just grasp names that are either connected to the club or are available. There would be no chance of getting a significant amount of money on any of them.
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I-Love-CTFC
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I think those names have been pulled out of a hat. Hardly any realistic options on that list apart from Gary Bowyer. You’d expect Keith Curle to be on the shortlist, Lee Carsley, Jerry Gill.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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We usually end up discussing Cotterill’s return every season so maybe the bookies finally think it must happen.
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Malabus
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Where’s Jan Mølby on that list.
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Robin
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I-Love-CTFC wrote:I think those names have been pulled out of a hat. Hardly any realistic options on that list apart from Gary Bowyer. You’d expect Keith Curle to be on the shortlist, Lee Carsley, Jerry Gill.
I agree I'd imagine our shortlist would be Carsley, Curle, Bowyer and Gill.
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Carsley has been to two of our league games, so ive been told. Could be an indication. ? Not sure Cotters would want the job. Gary Bowyer id like, but somehow I feel it could be Carsley, but just quess work
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THECHOIRBOY
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The fact Paul Buckle is 16-1 means we should take the list with a heavy pinch of salt!!

Certainly interesting times, I've always touted Gill before but would be a risk now, as would anyone. My main reasons were his youth work at Norwich etc and at Bath he is getting a reputation for playing good football and giving young, hungry players a chance and i think this is something the club needs back to get fans back "on side"
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I-Love-CTFC
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Carsley now 5/4 with Sky Bet.
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Robin
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I kind of hope it is Carsley and we make a quick appointment. He has a great reputation and again known for developing players and building team spirit based upon his stints at Brentford and Blues.
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Robin
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Just checked the latest odds again and Russ Milton and Jack Lester have shortened, are people seriously betting on these two?! Carsley at 5/4 tells it's own story whilst Cotts has drifted to 4-1 2nd favourite. Gary Bowyer also shortened slightly to 14-1 otherwise no real movement.
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Fuller
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Carsley is a friend of the Chairman and he would be my choice.

Whoever makes up these odds ?

Jack Lester :roll:

More likely the Artful Dodger or Oliver Twist ...
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cheltsaxon
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Carsley did enter the betting at 4/1 into 5/4 now I was told him two weeks ago but could be wrong.
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bigdavejambo
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Fuller wrote:Carsley is a friend of the Chairman and he would be my choice.

Whoever makes up these odds ?

Jack Lester :roll:
hasnt Carsley said previously when offered the top job at Blues and Brentford that he would rather be a number 2?

Cotterill would bring the fans back.
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Robin
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He ruled himself out of the Brentford job when he caretaker, not sure about Blues. I mentioned this a few weeks back when he first got linked however maybe this has changed.
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Robin wrote:I kind of hope it is Carsley and we make a quick appointment. He has a great reputation and again known for developing players and building team spirit based upon his stints at Brentford and Blues.
Carsley looks good,an organiser was "out of possession coach" for England u21`s,has worked with Cotterill who doesn`t suffer fools.A good age 44 experienced and ambitious.
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everyman wrote:
Robin wrote:I kind of hope it is Carsley and we make a quick appointment. He has a great reputation and again known for developing players and building team spirit based upon his stints at Brentford and Blues.
Carsley looks good,an organiser was "out of possession coach" for England u21`s,has worked with Cotterill who doesn`t suffer fools.A good age 44 experienced and ambitious.
Well there we have the answer, Cotterill aided by Carsley.
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Cotts for me every time. There is a bit of cash for the right couple of players we need and I'm sure he would be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff and restore whatever is lacking amongst the current players. Come on Stevie let's restore a bit of pride at the Robs!
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Malabus
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Millionaire Cotterill would be laughing at this thread.
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Malabus wrote:Millionaire Cotterill would be laughing at this thread.
Yup, why would he come back to one of the smallest clubs in the EFL?

Only due to his past involvement. And if the squad is as awful as those judging after four games of not all the squad being available believe it to be then why would he risk coming back only to take us down and tarnish the memories of his first spell.
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Paul Buckle 16/1 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Obviously Cotterill would be the dream, his record at this level is outstanding, but I'm certainly not holding my breath on that one ever happening. Obviously the old romantic in me would like Jerry Gill as it's someone that knows the club and is easy to get right behind as the fans know him. Unfortunately, I feel it will be someone that doesn't know the club and could be another Buckle or could be a Ward. Let's hope whoever it is is more of a Ward.
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Alf
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Sometimes people can't resist one last challenge!
Re comments on Russ, when he stood in before he had much less experience than he has now. He has witnessed all the good and bad points from Gary's regime which should hold him in good stead. How many times has he stood there thinking 'I wouldn't do it that way' and I suspect Gary may not be a good listener to opinion.
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darreno
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I assume the bookies are talking about Gary Bowyer. He left Blackpool for 'family reasons' after the first game of the season so he won't be a candidate, so save your money.
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Robin
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I see three clear stand out candidates Cotterill, Carsley and Bowyer the rest would be big gambles.
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Robin
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Latest odds:
Lee Carsley
1/2
Jerry Gill
4/1
Gary Bowyer
8/1
Russell Slade
8/1
Steve Cotterill
12/1
Kenny Miller
16/1
Graham Westley
18/1
Jack Lester
18/1
Russell Milton
18/1
Gary Caldwell
20/1
Ian Holloway
25/1
Lee Johnson
25/1
Paul Buckle
25/1
Phil Brown
25/1
Robbie Neilson
25/1

Pleasing to see both Milton and Lester drifting out as expected but worrying to see Slade such short odds, he'd be a disaster in my view. Hearing some rumours Carsley is not ruled out but cannot be appointed immediately and SC is unlikely but not impossible.
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Get Gill in.
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Robin
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Why Gill? He seems one of the least qualified.
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Robin wrote:Why Gill? He seems one of the least qualified.
Up and coming, doing a good job down the road, realistic option, actual managerial experience.
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MittonRobin
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Robin wrote:Why Gill? He seems one of the least qualified.
Up and coming, doing a good job down the road, realistic option, actual managerial experience.
If either Milton or Gill get this job full time. You will see my season Ticket thrown on the pitch from the Car park the same day.
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Artemis
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You must have a very good throw. Ever considered a role as a specialist long throw coach or something in cricket?

No doubt with that threat in mind, Andy Wilcox will be crossing out both Milton and Gill from his shortlist (if they were ever on it)
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I don't see why Gill would be such a bad option. As RCS says, he's doing a good job at Bath, and he knows this club, its expectations and limitations. Everyone's got to have a start in the League somewhere, so why not Gill, here?
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Artemis
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To be honest, Jerry Gill isn't such a bad shout and one I'd be happy with. He will have reasonable contacts, is well qualified and has had success with Bath City in recent times. Most importantly, he knows our club and its limitations.
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MittonRobin
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Shade wrote:I don't see why Gill would be such a bad option. As RCS says, he's doing a good job at Bath, and he knows this club, its expectations and limitations. Everyone's got to have a start in the League somewhere, so why not Gill, here?
Because we are in a world of sh1t right now and i believe we need someone who has been there and has the experience to get out of it. We are in deep deep trouble at the minute and before long we will be left behind.
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