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Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 27 Oct 2013, 23:42
by Malabus
Athelstan, first king of all England died. He was raised in the royal court... In Tamworth.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 07:26
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
Fascinating

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 11:59
by Shade
Sunday, or 27th October, 979 AD?

Anyway, it was 939 AD when he died, which is 1074 years ago.
Also, he died in Gloucester and was buried in Malmesbury...

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 13:02
by Joey
It'll probably be another 1,034 years until the general public realise the royal family should be removed.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 13:39
by Shade
Why should they be removed? Because you don't like them, because of the charitable causes they work for, or because of the revenue they bring into the country?

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 16:09
by Joey
Shade wrote:Why should they be removed? Because you don't like them, because of the charitable causes they work for, or because of the revenue they bring into the country?
Having a monarchy degrades democracy within the UK and an unequal society. There is no statistic showing how much they themselves bring in, the idea of whether or not we keep them due to money is worrying. However I find it hard to believe people fly halfway around the world in an attempt to see a the royal family. Tourists will still travel here to see the castles, palaces and other such things.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 16:25
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
My only gripe with the monarchy is how much of my tax money pays for all the extended family to have free or very cheap country mansions, chauffeurs and all sorts of other luxuries.

Plus the Queen and Prince of Wales are the two biggest recipients of EU Common Agriculturtal Policy subsidies in the UK.

Strivers not skivers?

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 19:20
by Slothar
Shade wrote:Why should they be removed? Because you don't like them, because of the charitable causes they work for, or because of the revenue they bring into the country?
Maybe because having an unelected head of state is undemocratic, and that having a head of state who is also head of the church is a confliction for what is supposed to be a secular rule of government.

As for the charitable work, if your lavish and privileged lifestyle is funded by tax-payers, then some regular charity work is the bare minimum anyone should be expected to do.

Though not exclusively about royals and charity work, this documentary provides a decent bit of balance to any discussion on the monarchy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkrPx5RQ2I0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 11:06
by Shade
Yawn. Bitter and jealous people.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 11:40
by Ralph
Shade wrote:Yawn. Bitter and jealous people.
Correct!

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 11:48
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
Ralph wrote:
Shade wrote:Yawn. Bitter and jealous people.
Correct!
I remember that sentiment next time you moan about taxpayers money going to NHS, Welfare or immigrants.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 13:39
by Malabus
Really doesn't make any difference who the head of state is. They are all controlled by the eye on top of the pyramid.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 13:53
by Ralph
Malabus wrote:They are all controlled by the eye on top of the pyramid.
You mean this one?

Image

Thats on the back of a dollar bill over here :?

Google it Mal, theres more wacky sites on the internet about that, than you'll know what to do with :P

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 14:00
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
Mal has read them all.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 14:10
by asl
He contributes to most of them.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 14:26
by Malabus
Translates ORDER OUT OF CHAOS

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 14:30
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
Malabus wrote:Translates ORDER OUT OF CHAOS
Martin Allen?

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 16:05
by Slothar
Shade wrote:Yawn. Bitter and jealous people.
Yes, that is probably a fair description of a lot of Royals - but should we remove them simply because of that?

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 17:46
by Old Coventrian
Malabus wrote:Translates ORDER OUT OF CHAOS
Translates as 'New Order of The Ages'

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 19:55
by Malabus
"Ordo Ab Chao" - Latin for "Order Out of Chaos. Albeit not on The Great Seal but on the dollar bill.

Good documentary http://aworldchaos.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... llar-bill/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 20:10
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
That your blog Mal?

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 20:16
by Malabus
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:That your blog Mal?
If I started a blog the hot shots at GCHQ would close it and I would have to seek refuge in the Bolivian embassy.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 22:02
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
But you're right under their nose. Keep your enemies close.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 22:09
by Ralph
Malabus wrote:"Ordo Ab Chao" - Latin for "Order Out of Chaos. Albeit not on The Great Seal but on the dollar bill.

Good documentary http://aworldchaos.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... llar-bill/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

interesting film link Mal on that blog you posted. I have a quiet evening so i've started watching

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 22:47
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
Ralph wrote:
Malabus wrote:"Ordo Ab Chao" - Latin for "Order Out of Chaos. Albeit not on The Great Seal but on the dollar bill.

Good documentary http://aworldchaos.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... llar-bill/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

interesting film link Mal on that blog you posted. I have a quiet evening so i've started watching
Are there any lizards in it? Anything without lizards is just fiction made up by the establishment.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 13:06
by Joey
Shade wrote:Yawn. Bitter and jealous people.
I'm bitterly jealous of a family who get to live a life of luxury because of their bloodline.

Privatise parts of the NHS, Royal Mail and other public services but we must must keep the royal family because they let us wave plastic flags every time somebody gets married.

Re: Today 1,034 years ago...

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 13:40
by Ralph
tough....