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what is it?

Posted: 01 Oct 2018, 19:43
by Ihearye
what on earth is that being built at Junc 12 of the M5? looks like something out of blade runner

Re: what is it?

Posted: 01 Oct 2018, 20:58
by ctfc-fan
The incinerator that Stale Mince wants to stop.

Re: what is it?

Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 05:19
by Ihearye
That has changed my opinion on this fine piece of modern architecture :)

Re: what is it?

Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 05:28
by Daveangel
A thing of beauty in my humble opinion.

Re: what is it?

Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 05:52
by Ihearye
All it needs is a small bit of complimentary landscaping :)

Re: what is it?

Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 05:55
by Ihearye
I.E. So that those to the north and west can enjoy it through the branches of some mature trees. While our friends to the south and east have an uninterrupted view of its majesty. Always good to have alternatives

Re: what is it?

Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 06:05
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
Haha the planners approved this but turned down the (only accessible by car green-field covering) eco-park Vince wanted to build.

Of course the only reason Vince is against it is that it will be generating ‘Energy from Waste’ to supply Gloucestershire and further reduce dependence on fossil fuels and imports but acting as a competitor to Ecotricity.

Re: what is it?

Posted: 02 Oct 2018, 06:10
by ctfc-fan
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:Haha the planners approved this but turned down the (only accessible by car green-field covering) eco-park Vince wanted to build.
Anything that pisses SM off gets my vote!

Re: what is it?

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 08:37
by theidlerich
What you need to delve into is the underhand financing of the 'project'. GCC have and are fighting like mad to conceal this, despite being ordered to reveal the true costs to GCC rate/tax payers. The sums they have shelled out to keep this quiet is quite staggering. Look up articles on Javelin Park - quite illuminating, but understandable as the major players are true Blue Tory's who care little about residents, the environment or anything else apparently! Meanwhile the pollution carried on the prevailing wind will go North East towards the "idyllic Cotswold pastures" that some of the main players reside in. Further the queues at the junction, currently huge at peak times [with its consequence for accidents etc..] will get worse when the waste lorries start trundling in too! Shambles..on an epic scale.

Re: what is it?

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 09:48
by RegencyCheltenhamSpa
theidlerich wrote:What you need to delve into is the underhand financing of the 'project'. GCC have and are fighting like mad to conceal this, despite being ordered to reveal the true costs to GCC rate/tax payers. The sums they have shelled out to keep this quiet is quite staggering. Look up articles on Javelin Park - quite illuminating, but understandable as the major players are true Blue Tory's who care little about residents, the environment or anything else apparently! Meanwhile the pollution carried on the prevailing wind will go North East towards the "idyllic Cotswold pastures" that some of the main players reside in. Further the queues at the junction, currently huge at peak times [with its consequence for accidents etc..] will get worse when the waste lorries start trundling in too! Shambles..on an epic scale.
I don’t know enough about the scheme to comment on the environmental elements. The main questions for me are how much do the operators buy the rubbish input off the Council (assuming it is council rubbish collections which are the input) for, and is the energy output going to be sold at prevailing market rates per kWh, or is a ridiculous fixed price guarantee part of the deal as per the Hinckley C deal which is perhaps the worst of all time.

Be good for the county to have it’s own energy source imo, alongside renewables.

Re: what is it?

Posted: 13 Oct 2018, 11:08
by theidlerich
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
theidlerich wrote:What you need to delve into is the underhand financing of the 'project'. GCC have and are fighting like mad to conceal this, despite being ordered to reveal the true costs to GCC rate/tax payers. The sums they have shelled out to keep this quiet is quite staggering. Look up articles on Javelin Park - quite illuminating, but understandable as the major players are true Blue Tory's who care little about residents, the environment or anything else apparently! Meanwhile the pollution carried on the prevailing wind will go North East towards the "idyllic Cotswold pastures" that some of the main players reside in. Further the queues at the junction, currently huge at peak times [with its consequence for accidents etc..] will get worse when the waste lorries start trundling in too! Shambles..on an epic scale.
I don’t know enough about the scheme to comment on the environmental elements. The main questions for me are how much do the operators buy the rubbish input off the Council (assuming it is council rubbish collections which are the input) for, and is the energy output going to be sold at prevailing market rates per kWh, or is a ridiculous fixed price guarantee part of the deal as per the Hinckley C deal which is perhaps the worst of all time.

Be good for the county to have it’s own energy source imo, alongside renewables.
RCS that is exactly the problem; which is why there is such secrecy and spurious accounting going on. GCC will not release the details of the contract, despite an High Court order to do so. One suspects that they have "negotiated" a rather uneconomic and unsustainable price for the energy with an extensive contract with little in the way of get out clauses. Rather like Hinckly point for example.
It beggars belief that this Government is riding rough shod over local planning issues on allowing Fracking and stopping subsidies for Solar panels and subsidies for hybrib and electric cars. They must have rather too many shares in the oil/gas/coal industries! They are not concerned at all about Global Warning issues - recently very much highlighted - as it would interfere with their current way of life etc... However their offspring may well care though!

...no footy one thoughts turn elsehere....;) Trust the squad is gelling nicely though....