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Jon Palmer
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Shade
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Good stuff.
horlickfanclub
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Excellent news.
Robin
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As expected, excellent news.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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This raises one interesting question:

Is it cheaper and quicker to build a tidy new ground at Seasons than it is to make the current Whaddon site and facilities fit for purpose?
asl
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Must admit, RCS, that thought crossed my mind, too...

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This is good news.
I'm happy to admit to being totally wrong when I said that the freehold would be astronomically costly and beyond our means.
I thought that with housing development potential at some stage in the future the cost would be prohibitive, so to manage to purchase it with "a modest loan" is a great achievement by the club. This must have been the exciting thing that our chairman was alluding to many months ago.

No idea if this will make us more of a target to asset stripping consortia.

As for stadium potential who knows but I bet they'll be an emergency meeting in the Village Hall pretty soon.😉
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asl wrote: 20 Jul 2022, 11:08 Must admit, RCS, that thought crossed my mind, too...

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I wondered that too but not sure how it would come off with access.
ctfc-fan
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paperboy wrote:This is good news.
I'm happy to admit to being totally wrong when I said that the freehold would be astronomically costly and beyond our means.
I thought that with housing development potential at some stage in the future the cost would be prohibitive, so to manage to purchase it with "a modest loan" is a great achievement by the club. This must have been the exciting thing that our chairman was alluding to many months ago.

No idea if this will make us more of a target to asset stripping consortia.

As for stadium potential who knows but I bet they'll be an emergency meeting in the Village Hall pretty soon.Image
There will no doubt be a development uplift clause in the sale so Zurich would share in any uplift in value of the ground if sold for housing.
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ctfc-fan wrote: 20 Jul 2022, 12:27
paperboy wrote:This is good news.
I'm happy to admit to being totally wrong when I said that the freehold would be astronomically costly and beyond our means.
I thought that with housing development potential at some stage in the future the cost would be prohibitive, so to manage to purchase it with "a modest loan" is a great achievement by the club. This must have been the exciting thing that our chairman was alluding to many months ago.

No idea if this will make us more of a target to asset stripping consortia.

As for stadium potential who knows but I bet they'll be an emergency meeting in the Village Hall pretty soon.Image
There will no doubt be a development uplift clause in the sale so Zurich would share in any uplift in value of the ground if sold for housing.
Also potential that the site has been designated in the local plan as not being allowed to have built houses on.
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Club confirmation with David Bloxham and Paul Godfrey's thoughts:
https://www.ctfc.com/news/2022/july/che ... ng-ground/
ctfc-fan
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
ctfc-fan wrote: 20 Jul 2022, 12:27
paperboy wrote:This is good news.
I'm happy to admit to being totally wrong when I said that the freehold would be astronomically costly and beyond our means.
I thought that with housing development potential at some stage in the future the cost would be prohibitive, so to manage to purchase it with "a modest loan" is a great achievement by the club. This must have been the exciting thing that our chairman was alluding to many months ago.

No idea if this will make us more of a target to asset stripping consortia.

As for stadium potential who knows but I bet they'll be an emergency meeting in the Village Hall pretty soon.Image
There will no doubt be a development uplift clause in the sale so Zurich would share in any uplift in value of the ground if sold for housing.
Also potential that the site has been designated in the local plan as not being allowed to have built houses on.
It’s all in the ctfc article
Robin
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 20 Jul 2022, 11:04 This raises one interesting question:

Is it cheaper and quicker to build a tidy new ground at Seasons than it is to make the current Whaddon site and facilities fit for purpose?
Seasons is green zone land I believe so cannot build on most of it, also no transport infrastructure on in that part of town so location is not practical either. If we ever moved ground the race course or Golden valley are the more likely locations.
Jerry St Clair
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Great news.

Just one note of caution. Clubs with valuable assets are attractive targets for dodgy owners. So, let's be wary of potential suitors proclaiming wild ambition and spending promises.
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Jerry St Clair wrote: 21 Jul 2022, 15:42 Just one note of caution. Clubs with valuable assets are attractive targets for dodgy owners.
Surely that only applies if those assets can be stripped from the club and sold-off for the dodgy owner's benefit?

If the training ground cannot be developed for housing or commercial etc, then while it is obviously a valuable asset for the club, it would actually be more of a liability for a dodgy owner, in the sense that it costs money to maintain etc.


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