Flynn - in or out?

[Uppy]

Self-explanatory!

[Artemis]

If Bennetts in the team next week, I'll change my vote to 'Yes'

[Malabus]

A complete circus show spectacular!with more clowns on and off the field in the whole of the football league.

The mentally is noddy league and that’s the direction we are heading and the board wouldn’t give a f#!$.

I’m utterly sick and tired of the football club.

[ctfc-fan]

I’m utterly sick and tired of the football club.

Off you pop then

[Westie]

Yes , Flynn out and get rid of Johnson fast !
trouble is , the club does not act quick enough when things are wrong .
I really do not understand why the club has let Johnson back in, just look at his track record .

[Jim]

With the club looking for investment and the shareholders not putting any more money in and zero budget, are we really going to pay off a manager a few months into his tenure? He's got the safest job going unfortunately

[Jerry St Clair]

It seems we couldn’t work out who was to blame today - Flynn, Johnson, Bloxham, the entire Board, Downes - all being denounced from Block 1 and the PRE. Jim Haggin was just about the only one spared.

[Malabus]

I’m utterly sick and tired of the football club.

Off you pop then

Happy clapper will be getting a good hiding.

[ctfc-fan]

I’m utterly sick and tired of the football club.

Off you pop then

Happy clapper will be getting a good hiding.

Anger issues Mal?

[art vandalay]

Not yet, but not far off. Games are awful to watch and our performance has been poor at every home game so far. We’ve seen a few good patches of football, today for example, but this has been more than outweighed by our rank crapness over the majority of the game. All three games we’ve won had an element of good fortune, so we could quite easily be in the bottom two. I’m not seeing any progression in terms of our approach to the game or cohesion or building a playing style. If Flynn and/or Johnson left tomorrow, I wouldn’t be disappointed.

Combine this with the appalling comms from the board and their lack of a vision for the future, and I’m not left with much confidence in those running the club.

[Jerry St Clair]

I’ve gone for the thin ice option.

Our next three games are Col U (a), Carlisle (a) Bromley(h). 17th, 24th and 20th.

The Bromley game will mark pretty much 1/3 of the season gone. 5 point return minimum required from those three games otherwise his position is untenable in my view.

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

I’ve gone for the thin ice option.

Our next three games are Col U (a), Carlisle (a) Bromley(h). 17th, 24th and 20th.

The Bromley game will mark pretty much 1/3 of the season gone. 5 point return minimum required from those three games otherwise his position is untenable in my view.

According to the BBC the next three are:
Col U (a) on 19th Oct
Bradford (h) on 22nd Oct
Carlisle (a) on 26th Oct

[Jerry St Clair]

Ah yes. Good spot. Basic point still stands. Bradford is not quite a free hit, but I’d be surprised and delighted with anything from that game. Five from the other three a must.

[triggo]

Well...
Trying to think of a thought out response without a knee jerk reaction.
I would offer.... it became pretty obvious after a handful of games we were in the mix for a bottom of the table season.
..and today would reinforce that !
.however , whenever he switches tactics and we push forward we can trouble teams. Plus I havent seen much in this division to think we are out classsed ( maybe Wimbledon ).
So , the answer to the question.. give him another six games and see if he can tighten the defensive lapses and develop a more decisive last third.
Its shyte , agreed, especially after League one, but stick with it. Survival is the crux.
Cheltenham til I die !

[Shade]

I'm normally, and always have been, one for giving a manager more time than most seem to want to. However, I just can't see Flynn sorting this out. And the fact he just disappears down the tunnel at full time and leaves the players and Downes to face the wrath of the crowd, and then comes out to the media and almost exclusively blames the players when he keeps picking, and then subbing, his mate Bennett week after week... Nah, absolutely zero confidence in him.

Ever since the announcement, where he wanted to be manager and not first team coach, which was, what, a week after we were told he would be taking over by JP? And we didn't get any kind of interview for ages from him...it's never felt right and he's done nothing to endear himself to us.

[Ihearye]

One concern I have, is if they did decide to call time (which I don't think is right at this moment in time), who would then take control? We are bereft of talent in that department. In the past we had Russ to fall back on, but who now? Ashley ?
We had enough warnings from the Torquay fans about the GJ / AD combination and I, for one, think that this is the root of the problem. I do have sympathy for MF, given the people he has to work alongside and having an assistant imposed on him. AD we were originally told was going to be our defensive guru. That fact speaks in itself about our coaching strength.

During last season's first 10 matches, I still felt there was a togetherness about the club. What I sense now, is an apathy. The powers that be have taken the mantra of signing cheap in the hope of turning a profit too far. With a good few of the more experienced signings obviously having already peaked and on their way down. Not an enjoyable experience at WR these days

[HamTown]

For sure Iheaye.

I'm sure Russ only wishes the best for the club but must be slightly smug with all the fans who wanted him gone.

[CTFC.Harry]

ihearye sums the situation up very well. Recruitment last season and this season has been so poor and the manager bears the brunt of it. Lots of things about Flynn don’t inspire confidence but too many of the players aren’t up to L2 standard.

Why they brought GJ back is beyond me. He did amazingly well for the club, then it went sour but the positives still made up for his final season and his legacy was preserved. He’s out of touch and clearly made a mess of things at Torquay. How does that then qualify him to come to a freshly relegated L2 club?

I’m confident we’ll stay up because there are worse teams than us and some key players are missing through injury.

Ideally we stay up comfortably, get some investment and look to the future. That sense of optimism and feeling that the club was becoming ‘something’ during the 2nd half of Duff’s first season is missed and is needed.

[Lord Elpuz]

Swindle game was weird. Just after half time, we were smashed, completely dead and buried. CTFC fans became toxic (understandable) but after that 3rd Swindle goal went in the good ship CTFC steadied and the fans got right behind the team as the attacking subs got into the game, and if (a BIG IF) the equaliser had come, it would have sent most people home feeling happy (that’s one in the eye for Cinderella). But we are living on a prayer week in and week out (and no royalties to JBJ).

On the Johnson/Torquay popularity stakes - I was at the Bishops Cleeve FC 3-0 Torquay Utd FA Cup game a few weeks back, and the Torquay fans were calling for Johnson to be reinstated. Not sure whether that was a genuine desire, or an intended insult to the current Torquay Utd manager.

My big fear is being replaced in League 2 next season, by FGR. I don’t think I could cope with that.

Positives: as has already been said, no one called for Jim Haggin to go, and I would like to add the excellent Matt Gutteridge to the approval rating - the pitch looked stunning. I would also like to add the electrician to my vote of confidence list, as I note the floodlight lamps are all working again. Let’s hope they shine down favourably on our Team very swiftly.

[Si Robin]

One concern I have, is if they did decide to call time (which I don't think is right at this moment in time), who would then take control? We are bereft of talent in that department. In the past we had Russ to fall back on, but who now? Ashley ?
We had enough warnings from the Torquay fans about the GJ / AD combination and I, for one, think that this is the root of the problem. I do have sympathy for MF, given the people he has to work alongside and having an assistant imposed on him. AD we were originally told was going to be our defensive guru. That fact speaks in itself about our coaching strength.

During last season's first 10 matches, I still felt there was a togetherness about the club. What I sense now, is an apathy. The powers that be have taken the mantra of signing cheap in the hope of turning a profit too far. With a good few of the more experienced signings obviously having already peaked and on their way down. Not an enjoyable experience at WR these days

I see this a lot, but where has it come from?

Is it just assumed that because he was a defender he is a defensive coach? Or has someone at the club actually said this?

Wade Elliott was a winger, but he changed us from free-flowing attack to defensive no-hopers.

[horlickfanclub]

I’ve gone for the thin ice option.

Our next three games are Col U (a), Carlisle (a) Bromley(h). 17th, 24th and 20th.

The Bromley game will mark pretty much 1/3 of the season gone. 5 point return minimum required from those three games otherwise his position is untenable in my view.

According to the BBC the next three are:
Col U (a) on 19th Oct
Bradford (h) on 22nd Oct
Carlisle (a) on 26th Oct

Good points made above .Between the Carlisle and Bromley games we have the F.A. Cup. A disaster here could be the last game for Flynn .

[Si Robin]

I think the FA Cup is the crucial point for him. Go out of that with a whimper, then his position becomes untenable.

[Ihearye]

One concern I have, is if they did decide to call time (which I don't think is right at this moment in time), who would then take control? We are bereft of talent in that department. In the past we had Russ to fall back on, but who now? Ashley ?
We had enough warnings from the Torquay fans about the GJ / AD combination and I, for one, think that this is the root of the problem. I do have sympathy for MF, given the people he has to work alongside and having an assistant imposed on him. AD we were originally told was going to be our defensive guru. That fact speaks in itself about our coaching strength.

During last season's first 10 matches, I still felt there was a togetherness about the club. What I sense now, is an apathy. The powers that be have taken the mantra of signing cheap in the hope of turning a profit too far. With a good few of the more experienced signings obviously having already peaked and on their way down. Not an enjoyable experience at WR these days

I see this a lot, but where has it come from?

Is it just assumed that because he was a defender he is a defensive coach? Or has someone at the club actually said this?

Wade Elliott was a winger, but he changed us from free-flowing attack to defensive no-hopers.

I think I read it in an article, somewhere. I certainly didn't make it up as it would entail me being sufficiently interested in AD

As far as FA Cup goes, any team we draw will be a challenge for this team. So if 'they' are waiting to see what happens then, they may as well make the decision now. Unless anyone actually thinks the team have a barn storming performance in them?