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Jon Palmer
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:lol: ffs. Long caught out again. Kick the ball out from the kick off, concede a goal after 28 seconds. Pathetic.
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Alf
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Great start!
We were fast asleep.
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Shaun Long
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Shade wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 14:01 :lol: ffs. Long caught out again. Kick the ball out from the kick off, concede a goal after 28 seconds. Pathetic.
Time for the two and a half seasons temporary stop gap of playing Long at CB to end, surely.

If we don’t have a suitable CB then play four at the back.

He can make good contributions in other positions and is a valuable versatile player, but not a CB.

Part of me wishes we lost that game at Cambridge in Feb 2021 5-0 as that probably would have meant Duff didn’t persist with playing Long out of position.
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Every goal kick, Accrington have won the header and attacked straight back at us. Just about every header has been unchallenged. Why can they get players in the right places for them but we can't?!
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Midfield is absolutely missing. May as well not have them on the pitch.

I really hope there's a strong wind against us...
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Alf
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It’s the same start as last week, all a bit too casual and slow.
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How is that not a penalty/free kick?! Perry had his boot taken off!!!
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Long again landing us in the c!#p there with an awful ball to an unavailable Taylor. How that wasn't 2-0 I'll never know. Shows how bad Accrington are and therefore how bad we have been in this first half.
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I don't know if it's the ball, the wind, the pitch or what but the ball seems to be really hard to get under control for our boys.
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How the hell are we only 1 down. I expect better in the second half.
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Shade wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 14:44 How the hell are we only 1 down. I expect better in the second half.
Wade et al have to get into them and shake them up. Maybe replace a couple.

Time to punish Accrington for missing chances.
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Accrington are not a great side but we’re making them look far better than they are. Dan N should have a storming second half, use up some of the energy he saved in the first half!
Although, after saying that, I don’t think our game plan really works for our strikers. By the time they get a sniff of the ball the opponents defenders are back and covering.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 14:49
Shade wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 14:44 How the hell are we only 1 down. I expect better in the second half.
Wade et al have to get into them and shake them up. Maybe replace a couple.

Time to punish Accrington for missing chances.
Move Ferry in to midfield and Williams on for Long and go 442 I think
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We seem to have a squad of too many unfit / injured players

I know I hate "square pegs" but I would replace Long with Lloyd and play Brown (if fit) or Norton up front

We need some muscle in midfield where we can hardly string one pass together let alone two.
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Brown isn't on the bench. 15 mins until Alfie is on...

Nlundulu completely bottled a 50/50 just outside the area at the end of the half. Accrington then hit the bar about 5 seconds later.
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Less than a minute into the 2nd half and Accrington have already had a better effort on goal at that end than we managed in the first half.
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Mark Halliwell nailed it on comms - they’re playing 4-1-4-1, with the holding player nullifying Broom and their 4 in midfield breaking so quickly that Perry and Sercombe are overwhelmed and Lloyd and Ferry are caught high up the field exposing the lack of pace at the back. Combined with a high press, we can’t get out, and resort to going long (which we’re losing right now). Need a change of shape, ideas and personnel.
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When Accrington get the ball they’re looking to move it forward as quickly as possible, when we get it anywhere near their half we finish up passing it across and back.
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Shade wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 15:02 Brown isn't on the bench.
Brown injured again?
If yes that was probably why he didn’t come get on last Tuesday?
Surely he or even Norton should be playing in front of George Lloyd who is offering very little.
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QED wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 15:06 Mark Halliwell nailed it on comms - they’re playing 4-1-4-1, with the holding player nullifying Broom and their 4 in midfield breaking so quickly that Perry and Sercombe are overwhelmed and Lloyd and Ferry are caught high up the field exposing the lack of pace at the back. Combined with a high press, we can’t get out, and resort to going long (which we’re losing right now). Need a change of shape, ideas and personnel.
Mark Halliwell isn't commentating
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Sorry, Paul Furley!
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Ref is completely losing his mind. We are bad enough without him giving everything he possibly can to Accrington!
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I still live in hope we can turn an abysmal performance into a point like we did there last season.
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For a change, this ref is a joke. One rule for them, something different for us.
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Just about everything about this game was awful. Performance. Individual decision making. Ref. Accrington. The whole game.

The only good thing is that we have only lost 1-0.
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I thought after last week’s second half performance that there was a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel and thought we would take that into this week’s game. How wrong I was.
It’s not as if Accrington are a better side than Cambridge. Why can’t we start a game with the same enthusiasm as we finish? Add to that, a referee who seems to have close relatives in Accrington and it’s made for a dull afternoon for Cheltenham fans.
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No league game next week. Extra training needed.
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The worrying thing for me is I dont see any style of play of any coaching Wade has passed onto the style of play. At least with Duff we had an identity it was sometimes limited but you knew what you were going to get.

Must admit we are very dull to watch at the moment. Surely time Wade tries four at the back and a new system?
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Benctfc
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Noticed today as well as tTuesday Wade didnt even acknowledge the fans. A club like Cheltenham the bond you have with the supporters is very important. Little things like that go a long way he isnt helping himself one bit.
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Si Robin
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I did notice that on Tuesday as well.

I'm not one for demanding a manager/coach applauds the fans, etc... but it does look odd when they don't do it.
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Benctfc wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 16:48 Must admit we are very dull to watch at the moment. Surely time Wade tries four at the back and a new system?
Absolutely
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Si Robin wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 17:22 I did notice that on Tuesday as well.

I'm not one for demanding a manager/coach applauds the fans, etc... but it does look odd when they don't do it.
I noticed that too. Elliott and Milton got to the halfway line and turned back towards the main stand. I wasn’t impressed.
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It might just be Wade’s style. Some managers do it and some don’t. Don’t really see why it’s an issue to get worked up by it.

And there may be other reasons. He might want the players to have the moment to themselves. He might be running in to turn get recovery drinks in place and turn the bath taps on etc etc.
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