Adam Murray after West Ham defeat

[Jon Palmer]

Interview here: https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/s ... gs-8890950

[Fuller]

I like what I'm reading Adam.
No punches being pulled there....

[Haitch]

fair play to both JP and AM that was a great interview, love the attitude AM has

[DWx3]

I like the cut of his jib. The squad needs a massive trim and rebuild in terms of culture (as he puts it) to meet the short term aim of survival but also the more realistic medium term aim of challenging for promotion out of League Two next season.

[longmover]

“standards and culture”

since Duff left across the whole of the club these have dropped. Seems this board need a strong willed manager to keep them in check.

Cotterill
Johnson
Clarke

in my experience supporting CTFC this rings true.

[HamTown]

“standards and culture”

since Duff left across the whole of the club these have dropped. Seems this board need a strong willed manager to keep them in check.

Cotterill
Johnson
Clarke

in my experience supporting CTFC this rings true.

Martin Allen

[Warwickshire Robin]

It is certainly going to be a very interesting few months ahead.

Players are going to be moved on (or attempted to be anyway) and be replaced. DC seems to be a manager who likes experience over youth, particularly in our current situation, but we know good experience costs money so will be interesting to see what backing he gets from the board in January especially with no extra budget achieved through cup prize money.

And if he doesn't get the backing what happens then, he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy who will take that lying down!

[Si Robin]

“standards and culture”

since Duff left across the whole of the club these have dropped. Seems this board need a strong willed manager to keep them in check.

Cotterill
Johnson
Clarke

in my experience supporting CTFC this rings true.

Martin Allen

Not sure he counts given his personal standards in pubs around Cheltenham

[Robin]

I wrote a thread on here that there is a danger we throw the bath tub out with the water or something to that effect. Whilst I agree with what Adam Murray says here just be warned a massive squad overhaul during the season tends to be very costly (we may need to pay players contracts up or loan them our on subsidized wages), we may also need to over pay to bring players in - who wants to sell their better players - and finally if we want to improve the team we may need to pay more realistic wages to parent clubs. Of course we then need to get these players to agree to come, probably with DC at the helm they will see the appeal to rebound and have success just like we did under Gary Johnson. Then finally new signings usually take time to settle in so likely we will be recruiting for a league two play off push rather than another season at this level.

[longmover]

I wrote a thread on here that there is a danger we throw the bath tub out with the water or something to that effect. Whilst I agree with what Adam Murray says here just be warned a massive squad overhaul during the season tends to be very costly (we may need to pay players contracts up or loan them our on subsidized wages), we may also need to over pay to bring players in - who wants to sell their better players - and finally if we want to improve the team we may need to pay more realistic wages to parent clubs. Of course we then need to get these players to agree to come, probably with DC at the helm they will see the appeal to rebound and have success just like we did under Gary Johnson. Then finally new signings usually take time to settle in so likely we will be recruiting for a league two play off push rather than another season at this level.

I'm sure Murray and Clarke have been briefed regarding what ££ will be available come Jan and not 'hoping' the board will get some money for Christmas. This squad is bloated with sub standard c!#p that makes training/planning/understanding very difficult. These two have a job to do I for one hope the board listen very hard to what they say.

Staying in this league will be "easier" than a promotion push from league two.

[Robin]

I know we've tended to cost cut to the bone after a relegation the one exception being the Gary Johnson champions season where we essentially threw everything we had to back him and gave him a big budget for the level. Clearly we won't go down and be one of the top budgets but Accrington and Morecambe are thriving currently so a rebound is far from impossible.

[horlickfanclub]

A lot of bluster and very little constructive .No comment about the misshapen team formation he helped put out.

[longmover]

A lot of bluster and very little constructive .No comment about the misshapen team formation he helped put out.

this game meant nothing, a free hit to confirm and experiment etc. His message was clear, the squad needs gutting.

tactics/formation meant nothing.

[Fuller]

I know we've tended to cost cut to the bone after a relegation the one exception being the Gary Johnson champions season where we essentially threw everything we had to back him and gave him a big budget for the level. Clearly we won't go down and be one of the top budgets but Accrington and Morecambe are thriving currently so a rebound is far from impossible.

GJ champions season budget boosted no end by the money left to the Trust. Doubt that will ever happen again. Clubs like Stockport and Wrexham paying way above what we do. MK Dons and Notts County both there too. Won’t be easy to get out of League Two unless the funds can be magicked from somewhere.

[Fuller]

https://www.ctfc.com/news/2023/november ... am-defeat/

[horlickfanclub]

A lot of bluster and very little constructive .No comment about the misshapen team formation he helped put out.

this game meant nothing, a free hit to confirm and experiment etc. His message was clear, the squad needs gutting.

tactics/formation meant nothing.

Did he have a couple of days off after Saturday? He seems content to be out of the F.A. Cup too. Better plant the money tree for January.

[Shade]

I know we've tended to cost cut to the bone after a relegation the one exception being the Gary Johnson champions season where we essentially threw everything we had to back him and gave him a big budget for the level. Clearly we won't go down and be one of the top budgets but Accrington and Morecambe are thriving currently so a rebound is far from impossible.

GJ champions season budget boosted no end by the money left to the Trust. Doubt that will ever happen again. Clubs like Stockport and Wrexham paying way above what we do. MK Dons and Notts County both there too. Won’t be easy to get out of League Two unless the funds can be magicked from somewhere.

Pretty sure the bounceback money was the parachute payment we got for being relegated, the board gambled and threw it all in. £800k iirc.

[Robin]

Yes, Shade is right we threw the majority of the parachute money at it combined with having some of the largest crowds at the level that season.

[Nesty]

"quality over quantity"