The Robins Nest Forum

Oldun wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 17:35 The content of this letter is totally uncalled for and highly offensive to a group of directors who are giving their very best for the club. I just hope that none of them take it personally enough to up and leave their roles at Whaddon Road.
The Chair was very clear what the plan is for the club; the board wants to see it established as a League One side. Given the unpredictability of football that is all that we can ask. There is a team not a million miles from here that had grand clearly stated plans for itself, including Championship football; it even had extra stars on its shirts........that went well!
Whinging about the room and the lack of background advertising etc is petty and in the extreme. Perhaps the writer could have turned up in his free time to improve that situation!
My open letter to the board says, "thank you for all you are doing", "keep up the good work" and when you find a rich benefactor we will still be here supporting.
Ironic that the writer didn't attend last night! It reminds me of some guy I heard about recently who reckons he's a supporter but who chose to watch the Grand National in a pub rather that support the team!
COYR
PS Big shout to the manager too. He gave up his evening despite having one or two other things on his mind. Well done Sir!

ctfc-fan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:40 I’ll pick you up on the new stand we so dearly need. Why would anyone invest £10m odd on a new stand at a stadium which sits on land which isn’t even owned by the club? It does not make commercial sense for an investor.

Also we have just invested in solar on the stadium which will reduce overheads and produce a small income at times when not in use. That’s forward thinking as was purchasing the training ground.

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:14 We are all entitled to our views. But this does not make those views valid.

You are chatting s#!t mate, maybe stop?

ctfc-fan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:40 I’ll pick you up on the new stand we so dearly need. Why would anyone invest £10m odd on a new stand at a stadium which sits on land which isn’t even owned by the club? It does not make commercial sense for an investor.

Also we have just invested in solar on the stadium which will reduce overheads and produce a small income at times when not in use. That’s forward thinking as was purchasing the training ground.

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:44

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:14 We are all entitled to our views. But this does not make those views valid.

You are chatting s#!t mate, maybe stop?

Ben,

So key questions you might be able to answer,

How to the Board plan to maximise the value of the Cheltenham brand?
In the next 5 years how are the club planning to engage with school age children to grow the future fan base? FGR fan ambassador scheme is a huge success for example
What is the clubs strategy for maximising the value from Seasons, i.e. it has a lot of space in the buildings, a bar etc. I have never seen the club look to generate income from this.
There are a number of significant businesses and employers in the Cheltenham area, there is limited evidence of any engagement with them. There should be a strategy in place to do this.

That is just a starter for ten, there are so many more items the club and business of its side should be looking at as part of a strategy and have performance metrics against, if you treat that professionally it will translate into growth off the pitch which will lead to more money for the playing squad.

All this is with the lens of what is realistic in terms of our size, but the level of ambition of the brand which is Cheltenham Town and its business side is shocking, if you get that right you grow revenue which in turn allows you to invest in the ground and in the playing squad.

The should be working with DC on the vision for the footballing side his body language (from what I could see on the awful camera angle) and comments were basically the club lacks any sort of strategy, other than we want to be in league one. But there is no substance to how we are going to achieve that other than sell a player or two. Thank is not a business strategy.

At present the club feels very non league if that off the pitch, you only have to look around so many non league clubs get the importance of brands, image etc, The blub just dont get it.

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:52

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:44

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:14 We are all entitled to our views. But this does not make those views valid.

You are chatting s#!t mate, maybe stop?

Ben,

So key questions you might be able to answer,

How to the Board plan to maximise the value of the Cheltenham brand?
In the next 5 years how are the club planning to engage with school age children to grow the future fan base? FGR fan ambassador scheme is a huge success for example
What is the clubs strategy for maximising the value from Seasons, i.e. it has a lot of space in the buildings, a bar etc. I have never seen the club look to generate income from this.
There are a number of significant businesses and employers in the Cheltenham area, there is limited evidence of any engagement with them. There should be a strategy in place to do this.

That is just a starter for ten, there are so many more items the club and business of its side should be looking at as part of a strategy and have performance metrics against, if you treat that professionally it will translate into growth off the pitch which will lead to more money for the playing squad.

All this is with the lens of what is realistic in terms of our size, but the level of ambition of the brand which is Cheltenham Town and its business side is shocking, if you get that right you grow revenue which in turn allows you to invest in the ground and in the playing squad.

The should be working with DC on the vision for the footballing side his body language (from what I could see on the awful camera angle) and comments were basically the club lacks any sort of strategy, other than we want to be in league one. But there is no substance to how we are going to achieve that other than sell a player or two. Thank is not a business strategy.

At present the club feels very non league if that off the pitch, you only have to look around so many non league clubs get the importance of brands, image etc, The blub just dont get it.

Wow. Non-league was my upbringing. How do you compare this season to 1992-95? What's your frame of reference? Which non league team do you compare us to?

Good to compare us to FGR

ALWAYS BEWARE A NEW POSTER WITH EXTREME VIEWS

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:43 What? We so 'dearly need' a new stand?

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:57

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:52

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:44

Ben,

So key questions you might be able to answer,

How to the Board plan to maximise the value of the Cheltenham brand?
In the next 5 years how are the club planning to engage with school age children to grow the future fan base? FGR fan ambassador scheme is a huge success for example
What is the clubs strategy for maximising the value from Seasons, i.e. it has a lot of space in the buildings, a bar etc. I have never seen the club look to generate income from this.
There are a number of significant businesses and employers in the Cheltenham area, there is limited evidence of any engagement with them. There should be a strategy in place to do this.

That is just a starter for ten, there are so many more items the club and business of its side should be looking at as part of a strategy and have performance metrics against, if you treat that professionally it will translate into growth off the pitch which will lead to more money for the playing squad.

All this is with the lens of what is realistic in terms of our size, but the level of ambition of the brand which is Cheltenham Town and its business side is shocking, if you get that right you grow revenue which in turn allows you to invest in the ground and in the playing squad.

The should be working with DC on the vision for the footballing side his body language (from what I could see on the awful camera angle) and comments were basically the club lacks any sort of strategy, other than we want to be in league one. But there is no substance to how we are going to achieve that other than sell a player or two. Thank is not a business strategy.

At present the club feels very non league if that off the pitch, you only have to look around so many non league clubs get the importance of brands, image etc, The blub just dont get it.

Wow. Non-league was my upbringing. How do you compare this season to 1992-95? What's your frame of reference? Which non league team do you compare us to?

Good to compare us to FGR

ALWAYS BEWARE A NEW POSTER WITH EXTREME VIEWS

First game 1978 Ben,

And despite what you think of vince and FRG, they have created a brand and they are grwoing their support with excellent local schools engagement. They have sponsors from international companies . Yes they are rivals and football has gone wrong over the past few seasons, but they have a clear Brand and vison, what is Cheltenham Vison? What is our Brand? Please tell me this?

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:57

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:52

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:44

Ben,

So key questions you might be able to answer,

How to the Board plan to maximise the value of the Cheltenham brand?
In the next 5 years how are the club planning to engage with school age children to grow the future fan base? FGR fan ambassador scheme is a huge success for example
What is the clubs strategy for maximising the value from Seasons, i.e. it has a lot of space in the buildings, a bar etc. I have never seen the club look to generate income from this.
There are a number of significant businesses and employers in the Cheltenham area, there is limited evidence of any engagement with them. There should be a strategy in place to do this.

That is just a starter for ten, there are so many more items the club and business of its side should be looking at as part of a strategy and have performance metrics against, if you treat that professionally it will translate into growth off the pitch which will lead to more money for the playing squad.

All this is with the lens of what is realistic in terms of our size, but the level of ambition of the brand which is Cheltenham Town and its business side is shocking, if you get that right you grow revenue which in turn allows you to invest in the ground and in the playing squad.

The should be working with DC on the vision for the footballing side his body language (from what I could see on the awful camera angle) and comments were basically the club lacks any sort of strategy, other than we want to be in league one. But there is no substance to how we are going to achieve that other than sell a player or two. Thank is not a business strategy.

At present the club feels very non league if that off the pitch, you only have to look around so many non league clubs get the importance of brands, image etc, The blub just dont get it.

Wow. Non-league was my upbringing. How do you compare this season to 1992-95? What's your frame of reference? Which non league team do you compare us to?

Good to compare us to FGR

ALWAYS BEWARE A NEW POSTER WITH EXTREME VIEWS

First game 1978 Ben, So I havemore grey hair and jumpers for goal posts. Season ticket holder for about 28 years.

And despite what you think of vince and FGR, they have created a brand and they are growing their support with excellent local schools engagement. They have sponsors from international companies . Yes they are rivals and football has gone wrong over the past few seasons, but they have a clear Brand and vison, what is Cheltenham Vison? What is our Brand? Please tell me this?

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 17:54

Oldun wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 17:35 The content of this letter is totally uncalled for and highly offensive to a group of directors who are giving their very best for the club. I just hope that none of them take it personally enough to up and leave their roles at Whaddon Road.
The Chair was very clear what the plan is for the club; the board wants to see it established as a League One side. Given the unpredictability of football that is all that we can ask. There is a team not a million miles from here that had grand clearly stated plans for itself, including Championship football; it even had extra stars on its shirts........that went well!
Whinging about the room and the lack of background advertising etc is petty and in the extreme. Perhaps the writer could have turned up in his free time to improve that situation!
My open letter to the board says, "thank you for all you are doing", "keep up the good work" and when you find a rich benefactor we will still be here supporting.
Ironic that the writer didn't attend last night! It reminds me of some guy I heard about recently who reckons he's a supporter but who chose to watch the Grand National in a pub rather that support the team!
COYR
PS Big shout to the manager too. He gave up his evening despite having one or two other things on his mind. Well done Sir!

We are all entitled to voice our views, the reason for me not being there is I am currently in the USA on a business trip so it was a little challenging to get back for the evening. Yes, the club Board are well intentioned, but things like the set up last night, the lack of vision, no where dod I say lets aim for the Championship with stars on the shirts, but some sort of laid out vision on the business side of the club is what is needed. The strategy could be we cant build a main stand but in 5 years we want to improve hospitality, this could be by building a separate building in the car park, but it was the total lack of ideas and vision, it seems like they want to pootle along. There are so many clubs over taking us and I don't see them being innovative. we are still non league in so many ways.

Just the set up of the meeting itself for example was just rubbish for what is a multi million pound business. If my company held a public forum in such a poor way heads would roll. It is 2024 not 1982. We need to move with the times Wilcox was a breath of fresh air and wanted to take the club fwd, this Board do not.

bigdavejambo wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 20:26

bcrobin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 17:54

Oldun wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 17:35 The content of this letter is totally uncalled for and highly offensive to a group of directors who are giving their very best for the club. I just hope that none of them take it personally enough to up and leave their roles at Whaddon Road.
The Chair was very clear what the plan is for the club; the board wants to see it established as a League One side. Given the unpredictability of football that is all that we can ask. There is a team not a million miles from here that had grand clearly stated plans for itself, including Championship football; it even had extra stars on its shirts........that went well!
Whinging about the room and the lack of background advertising etc is petty and in the extreme. Perhaps the writer could have turned up in his free time to improve that situation!
My open letter to the board says, "thank you for all you are doing", "keep up the good work" and when you find a rich benefactor we will still be here supporting.
Ironic that the writer didn't attend last night! It reminds me of some guy I heard about recently who reckons he's a supporter but who chose to watch the Grand National in a pub rather that support the team!
COYR
PS Big shout to the manager too. He gave up his evening despite having one or two other things on his mind. Well done Sir!

We are all entitled to voice our views, the reason for me not being there is I am currently in the USA on a business trip so it was a little challenging to get back for the evening. Yes, the club Board are well intentioned, but things like the set up last night, the lack of vision, no where dod I say lets aim for the Championship with stars on the shirts, but some sort of laid out vision on the business side of the club is what is needed. The strategy could be we cant build a main stand but in 5 years we want to improve hospitality, this could be by building a separate building in the car park, but it was the total lack of ideas and vision, it seems like they want to pootle along. There are so many clubs over taking us and I don't see them being innovative. we are still non league in so many ways.

Just the set up of the meeting itself for example was just rubbish for what is a multi million pound business. If my company held a public forum in such a poor way heads would roll. It is 2024 not 1982. We need to move with the times Wilcox was a breath of fresh air and wanted to take the club fwd, this Board do not.

Why did Wilcox leave?

asl wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 19:00

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:43 What? We so 'dearly need' a new stand?

You might well be alone in thinking the existing main stand is fit for purpose - even amongst the board. I would respectfully suggest you stop "chatting sh1t" - but, better still, why not let another poster express their views without verbally abusing them just because you disagree?

Ihearye wrote:

asl wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 19:00

Ben3 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 18:43 What? We so 'dearly need' a new stand?

You might well be alone in thinking the existing main stand is fit for purpose - even amongst the board. I would respectfully suggest you stop "chatting sh1t" - but, better still, why not let another poster express their views without verbally abusing them just because you disagree?

End of the school week, no homework to do so bless him he goes fishing. However I do admire your attribute of 'thinking. If only

Oldun wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 17:35 The Chair was very clear what the plan is for the club; the board wants to see it established as a League One side.

Robin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 16:09 So very well said!

Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024, 17:58 One thing that struck me today thinking about improving income was that I would imagine two of the bigger sponsorship incomes would be the shirt front and kit manufacturer

We have had Errea and Mira both for over 20 years now if I remember correctly. Is this because they constantly outbid everyone else come contract renewal time? There is no one else interested? Or there is no bid process and the status quo accepted?

Wouldnt have thought keeping the same companies this long maximises our potential but maybe it does?

Si Robin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024, 20:38 He wanted to go all out in League One - but he wanted to do it without investing any money himself. He said he was going to invest £100k but the money never materialised.

The bloke was a snake oil salesman, he got the support of a lot of people by buying drinks in the Nest and generally spouting balls. When pushed out of the club he told people that West Brom would never deal with us again because they didn't like how he was treated - we got Caleb Taylor the following season.

Robin wrote:I heard Andy Wilcox businesses were struggling hence the lack of cash investment. Snake oil salesman or not we had someone who had a connection with the fans which our current chairman does not. That might not be the most important thing but it can really matter in difficult times.

Robin wrote: ↑21 Apr 2024, 08:58 So having a qualified solicitor who lots of fans feel isn't the right fit for the role is better then Bloxham also has no money and no connection with fans. I want this club in the best possible hands and I don't believe that's currently the case.

Si Robin wrote: ↑21 Apr 2024, 09:27 I don't understand why Bloxham is getting so much heat. He was poor on Thursday, no doubt about that, but he isn't a dictator and all decisions by the board are done on votes.

Why is it suddenly Bloxham that's suddenly the bad guy and not, say, Murry Toms or Clive Gowing, or David Beesley, or Paul Bence?

The clamour for Wilcox again is a clamour for something the club can't and won't do. Spend money it doesn't have chasing a dream its unlikely to reach. He had a connection with some fans - he had no connection with me. Read any of his interviews as chairman, if he was made of chocolate he'd eat himself.