Next season’s 11 (24/25 edition)

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Jim
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Did this last summer and now the squad is starting to take some sort of shape, I thought lets do it again for this season. Bit tricky as we don’t know exactly how MF will set up, but by all accounts he’s a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-1-2 man. Will be updating as new signings come in.

So, if the season started tomorrow I reckon our first 11 could look a little like this (L to R as a 5-3-2):

Harris
Haynes
Bradbury
Bennett
Walters?
AJB
Kinsella
Young
Pell
Taylor
Street

Bench:
Bonds
Thomas
Keena
Liggett
King
Wilcox

Plenty of debate to be had about who will start in midfield, I went with Kins over Bonds because I assume MF knows him from Swindon and Walsall. I’ve not seen enough of Young to say what type of player he is, but potentially he’s Pett’s replacement. I’ve left Pett out as it sounds like he’s halfway out the door.

Hopefully he can also work out a way to get Thomas into the team. Maybe as an RWB option or as the AM in 3-4-1-2?

As a starting 11, it’s not far off - desperately need a RCB and a 1st choice keeper. Then it’s building the squad, probably with a fair few loans and Charlie Austin…
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longmover
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I can't remember too much about Bonds in previous league two campaigns and a quick check shows he was loaned out to Kidderminster for the majority of it. I think he (now) 'could' provide a solid foot on the ball in league two with three seasons in league one under his belt and the league giving him a little more forgiveness in some of his passing, should score more as well.

Will have to take his chances as can't see him starting with the players that have been bought in.
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Bonds was only on loan to us from Hull in the 20/21 season. He made 8 appearances before injuring his knee.

We then signed him permanently that summer and he went out on loan to Kiddy in our first season in League 1.
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Si Robin wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 09:00 Bonds was only on loan to us from Hull in the 20/21 season. He made 8 appearances before injuring his knee.

We then signed him permanently that summer and he went out on loan to Kiddy in our first season in League 1.
how do you remember all this? :o
Jim
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longmover wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 08:54 I can't remember too much about Bonds in previous league two campaigns and a quick check shows he was loaned out to Kidderminster for the majority of it. I think he (now) 'could' provide a solid foot on the ball in league two with three seasons in league one under his belt and the league giving him a little more forgiveness in some of his passing, should score more as well.

Will have to take his chances as can't see him starting with the players that have been bought in.
Midfield is looking comparatively strong and you'd imagine Young and Pell have come in to be first choice. I've been a big fan of Bonds, and always thought of him as a player who could kick on and player higher up but he wasn't great last season and we only saw the best of him in brief flashes.

He strikes me as a confidence player, and maybe dropping down a level could help him rediscover his best form. There's another six-figure player there if he's playing at his best (I think Championship clubs have looked at him in the past?). If he's not at his best he'll find it hard to get into the team ahead of Kins, Pell and Young.
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longmover wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 09:17
Si Robin wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 09:00 Bonds was only on loan to us from Hull in the 20/21 season. He made 8 appearances before injuring his knee.

We then signed him permanently that summer and he went out on loan to Kiddy in our first season in League 1.
how do you remember all this? :o
It's an illness. My brain is just full of useless shite like this.

If I could put it to use in my day job I'd be wealthy enough to buy out Mr Keswick :lol:
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longmover wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 09:17
Si Robin wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 09:00 Bonds was only on loan to us from Hull in the 20/21 season. He made 8 appearances before injuring his knee.

We then signed him permanently that summer and he went out on loan to Kiddy in our first season in League 1.
how do you remember all this? :o
Well some of us have very good memories and some use Google.
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Assume we'll stick to 352 but I'd love a go at 433.

Harris (or new GK)
AJB Bennett Bradbury Haynes
Kinsella Bonds Young
Thomas Taylor Street
HamTown
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Would like to see Kinsella as a backup to midfield and RWB with Pell, Bonds and Young starting in midfield

If we got Austin aswell we'd have quite a few big lads that would increase the chance of our seasons set piece goals from 1 to as high as 3
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I would probably have Pett in there somewhere
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Ihearye wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 16:01 I would probably have Pett in there somewhere
Petts leaving
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longmover wrote:
Si Robin wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 09:00 Bonds was only on loan to us from Hull in the 20/21 season. He made 8 appearances before injuring his knee.

We then signed him permanently that summer and he went out on loan to Kiddy in our first season in League 1.
how do you remember all this? :o
Don’t have to remember, it’s common knowledge.
Artemis
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Hasn't Joe Day signed as player coach? Or was that a figment of my imagination?
CS85
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I think JP tweeted something along those lines about day,nothing official.
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HamTown wrote:
Ihearye wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 16:01 I would probably have Pett in there somewhere
Petts leaving
Did you not see his dad say he’s heard nothing of the sort at JP?
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ctfc-fan wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 19:42
HamTown wrote:
Ihearye wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 16:01 I would probably have Pett in there somewhere
Petts leaving
Did you not see his dad say he’s heard nothing of the sort at JP?
I did. Still trust JP, no chance Pett will still be here come August.
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HamTown wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 20:21
ctfc-fan wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 19:42
HamTown wrote:
Petts leaving
Did you not see his dad say he’s heard nothing of the sort at JP?
I did. Still trust JP, no chance Pett will still be here come August.
Will be interesting to see what value we have put on him then, presume this is already known?
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According to JP on a live stream yesterday Pett has a clause in his contract to be able to leave if we were relegated.
He'll be gone before the window shuts.
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CS85 wrote: 22 Jun 2024, 09:09 According to JP on a live stream yesterday Pett has a clause in his contract to be able to leave if we were relegated.
He'll be gone before the window shuts.
You say this like other clubs are lining up for him. He was a free agent when we picked him up last, what...October? Presumably because nobody had wanted him. He's now a year older and he didn't exactly end the season in good form.
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Shade wrote: 22 Jun 2024, 10:38
CS85 wrote: 22 Jun 2024, 09:09 According to JP on a live stream yesterday Pett has a clause in his contract to be able to leave if we were relegated.
He'll be gone before the window shuts.
You say this like other clubs are lining up for him. He was a free agent when we picked him up last, what...October? Presumably because nobody had wanted him. He's now a year older and he didn't exactly end the season in good form.
Totally agree Shade. Also, I know we probably have to sweaten contracts with clauses like this as we can't pay the £'s players want, but it just stinks that they can basically say 'I can fail in my job but it doesn't matter as I'll just go back to League 1 anyway, stuff you lot'.
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I was going to update this with the latest outgoings, but according to JP we might get some incomings today so i'll hold off until later.

Let's hope it's not just Evans and Day... Didn't GJ say we'd have 3/4 of our squad sorted by the Cleeve friendly? For that to be true we need about 8 signings by Friday!
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8?

We currently have 16 signed after Day has been confirmed. 24 is likely to be the whole squad.

NOTE: I know Pett is likely to be off, 3 are youngsters (still squad players though) and Harris has been transfer listed.
Jim
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Si Robin wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 10:13 8?

We currently have 16 signed after Day has been confirmed. 24 is likely to be the whole squad.

NOTE: I know Pett is likely to be off, 3 are youngsters (still squad players though) and Harris has been transfer listed.
I make 15, which includes Day who hadn't signed when I wrote the post, so 14, minus the inevitable departure Pett and Harris leaves 12... so 3/4 of 24 is 18 so let's say 6 would've been more accurate. Forgive the hyperbole! 5 transfers to go...
Si Robin
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Joe Day
Max Harris (Transfer Listed)
Arkell Jude-Boyd
Scot Bennett
Tom Bradbury
Ryan Haynes
Tom Pett (Leaving?)
Jordan Thomas
Harry Pell
Liam Kinsella
Luke Young
Aidan Keena
Matty Taylor
Brandon Liggett
Tom King
Freddie Wilcox

I count 16 there.
Jim
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Si Robin wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 10:50 Joe Day
Max Harris (Transfer Listed)
Arkell Jude-Boyd
Scot Bennett
Tom Bradbury
Ryan Haynes
Tom Pett (Leaving?)
Jordan Thomas
Harry Pell
Liam Kinsella
Luke Young
Aidan Keena
Matty Taylor
Brandon Liggett
Tom King
Freddie Wilcox

I count 16 there.
Right you are, i'd already discounted Pett for some reason so deducted him twice effectively. So only 4 transfers needed by Friday, with Evans coming in that leaves just 3. An RCB is pretty essential as we don't currently have that covered (I assume Bennett will play as the central CB) so one of them would be handy!
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I thought Owen Evans had been officially confirmed? I don't see him on that list.
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asl wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 11:41 I thought Owen Evans had been officially confirmed? I don't see him on that list.
Not official yet from what I can see, although I assume it will be one of the incomings we're expecting to today according to JP.
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Si Robin wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 10:13 8?

We currently have 16 signed after Day has been confirmed. 24 is likely to be the whole squad.

NOTE: I know Pett is likely to be off, 3 are youngsters (still squad players though) and Harris has been transfer listed.
A squad of 24 seems too small unless you are excluding the three first year pros?
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Robin wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 13:52
Si Robin wrote: 03 Jul 2024, 10:13 8?

We currently have 16 signed after Day has been confirmed. 24 is likely to be the whole squad.

NOTE: I know Pett is likely to be off, 3 are youngsters (still squad players though) and Harris has been transfer listed.
A squad of 24 seems too small unless you are excluding the three first year pros?
My preference would be for a tight, versatile squad and would say 24 senior pros plenty big enough.

Something like:

GKs - 2
CBs - 5
WBs - 4
CM - 6
ST - 5

In defence we'll probably have a CB that can cover WB and/or vice versa. That gives 22 players - in that i'd include King as 5th striker and potentially Liggett or Wilcox as 6th choice CM. Thomas maybe as a 23rd man as I'm not sure where he fits!
Jim
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Based on Flynn's updates and the recent incomings and outgoings, here's an updated 11:

Evans
Haynes
Bradbury
Bennett
Walters?
AJB
Pett
Young
Pell
Taylor
Keena

Bench:
Day
Kinsella
Liggett
Wilcox
Thomas
Dulson
King

Not sure why I went for Kinsella on the bench, any midfield combo could work. I still don't see where Thomas fits, but he could easily be a starter, maybe in a 3-4-1-2? Sounds like we’ve seen the last of the major outgoings (unless a big bid comes in… not sure I see anyone going big on anything we’ve got left!). Really need to see some defensive incomings now…

Personally think we need 4 or 5 defenders, 1 or 2 more midfielders and 1 or 2 more strikers. How many will depend on the plans for Thomas and if the younger lads are actually going to be involved in the 1st team or are heading out on loan, sounds like Flynn is still undecided there.
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Undecided/depends on if he can get cover in that will be ahead of the kids, I'd imagine.
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