Thought it would be interesting to get others thoughts on what system or team they would like to see us start. I believe Jude Boyd and Colwill are unavailable due to internationals. Assume also Payne isn't fit to start.
I would like us to back the 3-5-2 formation and go with this.
Evans
Bakare
Stubbs
Bennett
Haynes
Kinsella
Pett
Young
Thomas
Dulson
Taylor
If Colwill isn't available i would like to see Thomas given ago in the CAM role but guess it would be Archer. I feel Sohna deserves a start but think you can only have one of him and Pett.
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Warwickshire Robin
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Really good question and I think there are going to be loads of different suggestions and none the same! I would like to see us stick with the 4-3-3 from Tuesday especially at home, so I would go:-
Evans
Kinsella
Bakare
Bradbury (although suspect it may be Shipley but as I haven't seen him play I will stick with Tom)
Haynes
Bennett
Pett
Sohna
Thomas
Dulson
Miller
Evans
Kinsella
Bakare
Bradbury (although suspect it may be Shipley but as I haven't seen him play I will stick with Tom)
Haynes
Bennett
Pett
Sohna
Thomas
Dulson
Miller
The talk up at Walsall was that Payne should be back for Saturday, let's hope that is true.
If it were myself I'd pick the following:
Day
Bakare
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne
Pett
Sohna
Young
Haynes
Taylor
Miller
Maybe a bit radical but for me it's our strongest eleven available I suspect though we will see Evans (who has done ok in fairness) and Archer/Bowman in the team, we may even go 4-3-3 again but I'm not in favour of keep changing the formation.
If it were myself I'd pick the following:
Day
Bakare
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne
Pett
Sohna
Young
Haynes
Taylor
Miller
Maybe a bit radical but for me it's our strongest eleven available I suspect though we will see Evans (who has done ok in fairness) and Archer/Bowman in the team, we may even go 4-3-3 again but I'm not in favour of keep changing the formation.
Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 07:21 Really good question and I think there are going to be loads of different suggestions and none the same! I would like to see us stick with the 4-3-3 from Tuesday especially at home, so I would go:-
Evans
Kinsella
Bakare
Bradbury (although suspect it may be Shipley but as I haven't seen him play I will stick with Tom)
Haynes
Bennett
Pett
Sohna
Thomas
Dulson
Miller
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Warwickshire Robin
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Yes, cos I totally forgot about him!!!!!! Good point, probably have him in ahead of Bakare in that case! Although I would be concerned with the lack of pace with those two so possibly more reason to pick Shipley if he is quicker than Bradbury,Robin wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 07:54Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 07:21 Really good question and I think there are going to be loads of different suggestions and none the same! I would like to see us stick with the 4-3-3 from Tuesday especially at home, so I would go:-
Evans
Kinsella
Bakare
Bradbury (although suspect it may be Shipley but as I haven't seen him play I will stick with Tom)
Haynes
Bennett
Pett
Sohna
Thomas
Dulson
Miller
I honestly can't call this week.
The only position I'm 100% convinced on is Evans in goal. Shipley is a left-sided defender, so could come in for Haynes (who looked ready to be dropped after 45 min on Tuesday, but was outstanding for the second 45) or Bradbury. If Payne is fit enough, then I think he starts as well. You have to believe Stubbs comes back in to the team - him and Bradbury as a pairing worries me though if Harrogate have a fast forward.
Like others, I think we'll stick with 4-3-3. But I'm concerned we'll go with 3 outright forwards up front again rather than wingers. I'm not convinced Thomas is ready to start yet - despite how well he played on Tuesday.
The only position I'm 100% convinced on is Evans in goal. Shipley is a left-sided defender, so could come in for Haynes (who looked ready to be dropped after 45 min on Tuesday, but was outstanding for the second 45) or Bradbury. If Payne is fit enough, then I think he starts as well. You have to believe Stubbs comes back in to the team - him and Bradbury as a pairing worries me though if Harrogate have a fast forward.
Like others, I think we'll stick with 4-3-3. But I'm concerned we'll go with 3 outright forwards up front again rather than wingers. I'm not convinced Thomas is ready to start yet - despite how well he played on Tuesday.
Even at an early stage of a season I can't remember one where fans and crucially the manager fluctuate so much on the best formation or the best players to implement it.
It's a shame that three of the brightest young guns might not be available to start on Saturday, but they'll be a cloud of depression over whatever the stadium is now called if we don't do the business against a team who swim in the same pond as us.
It's a shame that three of the brightest young guns might not be available to start on Saturday, but they'll be a cloud of depression over whatever the stadium is now called if we don't do the business against a team who swim in the same pond as us.
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horlickfanclub
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4 4 2 to use the width and protect the full backs 5 at the back and the split front 3 has not worked. Neither has all the old legs in at once tactic
Evans
Payne Bakare Stubbs Haynes
Kinsella Young Pett Thomas
Bowman Dulson
Evans
Payne Bakare Stubbs Haynes
Kinsella Young Pett Thomas
Bowman Dulson
I don't think I've actually ever known us have so many options in every position before in my life. I'd go 4-4-2.
Bradbury, Bakare, Stubbs, Bennett, Laing, Shipley. A lot of us would like to go 4 at the back but then we've got too many centre backs. How do you pick 2 out of those 6? Laing probably bottom of the list at the moment, but Stubbs, Bakare and Bradbury have done nothing wrong, Bennett is captain and pretty much an automatic pick by Flynn in either defence or midfield , and Shipley we haven't seen yet but have been told is pretty good. It also seems ridiculous that we are talking about who to drop as nobody has done a bad job, when we haven't kept a clean sheet yet this season! Myself, I'd go Bakare and Stubbs.
In the full back positions, we now seemingly have Jude-Boyd (absent), Payne and Kinsella that are all at least adequate on the right, and Haynes, Shipley and Willcox who, again, are all at least adequate on the left. This weekend, based on what has been said, I'd go Payne and Shipley.
In a deeper midfield role, we have Young, Bennett, Pett and Sohna. If playing a 3 in midfield, which seems to be the way whether it's 4 or 5 at the back, you'd think it would have to be the younger legs of Sohna with one of the other three. I'd go for Sohna and Pett, with Sohna looking to get forward more of the two.
In advanced midfield or the wide areas, we have Colwill (absent), Archer & Thomas. I'd have Archer and Thomas swapping wings often and drifting inside as well if they're not getting much joy out wide. Kinsella can replace one later on if necessary.
Up front we have Taylor, Dulson, Miller, Norkett & Bowman (and King). Personally, I don't really want to see Bowman anywhere near the starting line up with the way he's played so far. He may be in the team because he's the big man but he has done sod all, winning the ball in the air or holding it up. I'd start Taylor and Miller, looking to bring Dulson and Norkett on later.
Bradbury, Bakare, Stubbs, Bennett, Laing, Shipley. A lot of us would like to go 4 at the back but then we've got too many centre backs. How do you pick 2 out of those 6? Laing probably bottom of the list at the moment, but Stubbs, Bakare and Bradbury have done nothing wrong, Bennett is captain and pretty much an automatic pick by Flynn in either defence or midfield , and Shipley we haven't seen yet but have been told is pretty good. It also seems ridiculous that we are talking about who to drop as nobody has done a bad job, when we haven't kept a clean sheet yet this season! Myself, I'd go Bakare and Stubbs.
In the full back positions, we now seemingly have Jude-Boyd (absent), Payne and Kinsella that are all at least adequate on the right, and Haynes, Shipley and Willcox who, again, are all at least adequate on the left. This weekend, based on what has been said, I'd go Payne and Shipley.
In a deeper midfield role, we have Young, Bennett, Pett and Sohna. If playing a 3 in midfield, which seems to be the way whether it's 4 or 5 at the back, you'd think it would have to be the younger legs of Sohna with one of the other three. I'd go for Sohna and Pett, with Sohna looking to get forward more of the two.
In advanced midfield or the wide areas, we have Colwill (absent), Archer & Thomas. I'd have Archer and Thomas swapping wings often and drifting inside as well if they're not getting much joy out wide. Kinsella can replace one later on if necessary.
Up front we have Taylor, Dulson, Miller, Norkett & Bowman (and King). Personally, I don't really want to see Bowman anywhere near the starting line up with the way he's played so far. He may be in the team because he's the big man but he has done sod all, winning the ball in the air or holding it up. I'd start Taylor and Miller, looking to bring Dulson and Norkett on later.
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Broadway Brian
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Evans
Haynes
Bradbury
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne / Kinsella
Pett
Young
Thomas
Taylor
Miller
Haynes
Bradbury
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne / Kinsella
Pett
Young
Thomas
Taylor
Miller
Interesting how few people have Bennett in their team selections, for me he's done well apart from the occasions (Wimbledon and 15 mins vs Walsall) where he has been moved into midfield.
The overall though is we have lots of players but cannot figure out which formation gets the best out of the majority of them and which pairings are best within that formation. For example ideally you want a right and left foot balance in a back four, you want players in wing back that are quick, skilfull and can defend too. If we want to press you want mobile forwards like Dulson and Miller but then Taylor is by far our best finisher. Midfield you need some steel in the tackle and we dont really have that apart from Bennett who has looked out of place both times he's done that. We have players like Sohna and Pett who are great with keeping the ball and Colwill who can arrive late in the box and Young who seems to be a mix of the two but doesn't really have the legs to get up and down.
The overall though is we have lots of players but cannot figure out which formation gets the best out of the majority of them and which pairings are best within that formation. For example ideally you want a right and left foot balance in a back four, you want players in wing back that are quick, skilfull and can defend too. If we want to press you want mobile forwards like Dulson and Miller but then Taylor is by far our best finisher. Midfield you need some steel in the tackle and we dont really have that apart from Bennett who has looked out of place both times he's done that. We have players like Sohna and Pett who are great with keeping the ball and Colwill who can arrive late in the box and Young who seems to be a mix of the two but doesn't really have the legs to get up and down.
I think this is a good team with balance, Miller can do the running up top for Taylor especially. The only concern is there isn't much pace in the back three.Broadway Brian wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 11:12 Evans
Haynes
Bradbury
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne / Kinsella
Pett
Young
Thomas
Taylor
Miller
Not going to happen but my left field suggestion would be:
Evans
Bakare
Stubbs
Bennett
Haynes/Shipley
Pett
Young
Payne
Taylor
Thomas
Norkett
I liked the way Norkett was playing on the shoulder of the Newport defence and he has a bit of pace getting the keeper sent off in the process. Longer term AJB as a winger and Payne as RB as they both seem the most likely to set something up so far.
Evans
Bakare
Stubbs
Bennett
Haynes/Shipley
Pett
Young
Payne
Taylor
Thomas
Norkett
I liked the way Norkett was playing on the shoulder of the Newport defence and he has a bit of pace getting the keeper sent off in the process. Longer term AJB as a winger and Payne as RB as they both seem the most likely to set something up so far.
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Broadway Brian
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Agreed and lack of pace was my concern. I know nowt about the fella from Norwich and neither Laing nor Bakare fill me with much confidence just yet.Robin wrote:I think this is a good team with balance, Miller can do the running up top for Taylor especially. The only concern is there isn't much pace in the back three.Broadway Brian wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 11:12 Evans
Haynes
Bradbury
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne / Kinsella
Pett
Young
Thomas
Taylor
Miller
I’ve therefore opted for increase in experience / reduction in errors at the expense of pace.
Dont know much about Harrogate’s forward line either, so hoping it’s a partnership of Sam Vokes’ and Ryan Bowman’s twin brothers. 2 big lumoxing wardrobes please.
They're not! Their two top scorers are two strikers who are, from memory, 23 to 25 years old. I don't know any more about them but I'm expecting them to not be slow, based on how it seems Harrogate play away from home based on their stats - on the counter.Broadway Brian wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 21:18Agreed and lack of pace was my concern. I know nowt about the fella from Norwich and neither Laing nor Bakare fill me with much confidence just yet.Robin wrote:I think this is a good team with balance, Miller can do the running up top for Taylor especially. The only concern is there isn't much pace in the back three.Broadway Brian wrote: ↑05 Sep 2024, 11:12 Evans
Haynes
Bradbury
Stubbs
Bennett
Payne / Kinsella
Pett
Young
Thomas
Taylor
Miller
I’ve therefore opted for increase in experience / reduction in errors at the expense of pace.
Dont know much about Harrogate’s forward line either, so hoping it’s a partnership of Sam Vokes’ and Ryan Bowman’s twin brothers. 2 big lumoxing wardrobes please.