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Fuller
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TheTownClub wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 16:53
Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 15:37 JP tweeting that owner Mike Garlick is due to speak to a shortlist of managerial candidates before the weekend.
Note: Mike Garlick. Not "the board of directors" or its chairman.
Not sure why DB is still chairman? Usually the majority owner is also the chair?

I did have a couple of job interviews in the past where although they were relatively large companies, the owner undertook the interview solely. Probably wanted to keep a “firm grip” ….
horlickfanclub
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In the role that an owner should be.
ctfc-fan
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That’s specific businesses. Don’t believe that applies to football clubs.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 17:06
TheTownClub wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 16:53
Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 15:37 JP tweeting that owner Mike Garlick is due to speak to a shortlist of managerial candidates before the weekend.
Note: Mike Garlick. Not "the board of directors" or its chairman.
Not sure why DB is still chairman? Usually the majority owner is also the chair?

I did have a couple of job interviews in the past where although they were relatively large companies, the owner undertook the interview solely. Probably wanted to keep a “firm grip” ….
I sit on the non-Exec Board at work with the MD who is the majority shareholder. Our Chair is someone different.
andgarod
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will we have a DofF and will they be involved in the interviews
Fuller
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andgarod wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 18:02 will we have a DofF and will they be involved in the interviews
Doubtful.
You’d think the DoF will go on the back burner until
the manager/head coach is sorted?
Whatever, it’s a mess.
Robin
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Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 18:16
andgarod wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 18:02 will we have a DofF and will they be involved in the interviews
Doubtful.
You’d think the DoF will go on the back burner until
the manager/head coach is sorted?
Whatever, it’s a mess.
Why would it go on the backburner unless it's Cotterill and he's refusing to work with one or will rule himself out. The DoF should be selecting the manager with the owner and planning for a January overhaul.
andgarod
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@Robin
Where did ITV state who the new manager was
or has your source left the building
CS85
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andgarod wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 18:53 @Robin
Where did ITV state who the new manager was
or has your source left the building
The presenter on itv said they have heard its likely to be a manager who had been here previously.
everyman
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Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 15:37 JP tweeting that owner Mike Garlick is due to speak to a shortlist of managerial candidates before the weekend.
Makes good sense to consider all options rather than rush into a panic appointment such as the board would probably have made. ;)
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longmover
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everyman wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 09:16
Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 15:37 JP tweeting that owner Mike Garlick is due to speak to a shortlist of managerial candidates before the weekend.
Makes good sense to consider all options rather than rush into a panic appointment such as the board would probably have made. ;)

Finally Garlick is taking control.
Jerry St Clair
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longmover wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 09:49
everyman wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 09:16
Fuller wrote: 24 Sep 2025, 15:37 JP tweeting that owner Mike Garlick is due to speak to a shortlist of managerial candidates before the weekend.
Makes good sense to consider all options rather than rush into a panic appointment such as the board would probably have made. ;)

Finally Garlick is taking control.
Yes. It feels that Garlick initially wanted some continuity with Bloxham et al providing that while he took stock. But events have developed so rapidly it seems clear he is now taking charge and the Board are being sidelined somewhat.
Robin
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I don't think that's entirely true - the sidelining part. He's just being more hands on that planned. I do believe the board are involved with the hiring decision and there is a clear support for SC in that regard.
horlickfanclub
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Robin wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 13:42 I don't think that's entirely true - the sidelining part. He's just being more hands on that planned. I do believe the board are involved with the hiring decision and there is a clear support for SC in that regard.
The Board includes Mr and Mrs Garlick.
Robin
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The clear implication is that David Bloxham is being bypassed not the entire board.
ctfc-fan
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Robin wrote:The clear implication is that David Bloxham is being bypassed not the entire board.
Where’s that been implied? Have I missed something?
Oldun
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The clear implication is only that MG is doing the interviews! It's conceivable that DB, being a solicitor in full time employment, had already filled his diary with appointments and could not be available. His volunteer role may have had to take second place this week. Unacceptable to most I'm sure.
HamTown
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I do enjoy all the different "implications" taken from a dozen words in a quick tweet.

To be fair to the board they've got managerial appointments right for over a decade, including Flynn to an extent.
andgarod
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I would imagine the club secretary would be on hand for any details and minutes etc including action points
I suspect the rest of the board members excluding Mr and Mrs Garlick will be busy at work
Not a job for a volunteer
@Ham
DC did not work out exactly nor did Wade - just saying
Si Robin
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Wade took us to our second highest ever finishing position and a penalty kick away from a cup final at Wembley.

Just saying.
HamTown
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andgarod wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 18:54 I would imagine the club secretary would be on hand for any details and minutes etc including action points
I suspect the rest of the board members excluding Mr and Mrs Garlick will be busy at work
Not a job for a volunteer
@Ham
DC did not work out exactly nor did Wade - just saying
We were one goal away from staying up under DC. Everyone's obviously got their own opinion but after such a disastrous start he gave us a chance when it looked like we were totally dead and buried.

Wades 1st season was brilliant, 2nd season was a disaster before we even started the season so I've got great sympathy for him.
HamTown
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andgarod wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 18:54 I would imagine the club secretary would be on hand for any details and minutes etc including action points
I suspect the rest of the board members excluding Mr and Mrs Garlick will be busy at work
Not a job for a volunteer
@Ham
DC did not work out exactly nor did Wade - just saying
We were one goal away from staying up under DC. Everyone's obviously got their own opinion but after such a bad start he gave us a chance when it looked like we were totally dead and buried.

Wades 1st season was brilliant, 2nd season was a disaster before we even started the season so I've got great sympathy for him.
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HamTown wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 19:52
andgarod wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 18:54 I would imagine the club secretary would be on hand for any details and minutes etc including action points
I suspect the rest of the board members excluding Mr and Mrs Garlick will be busy at work
Not a job for a volunteer
@Ham
DC did not work out exactly nor did Wade - just saying
We were one goal away from staying up under DC. Everyone's obviously got their own opinion but after such a disastrous start he gave us a chance when it looked like we were totally dead and buried.

Wades 1st season was brilliant, 2nd season was a disaster before we even started the season so I've got great sympathy for him.
The board got it right with both DC and Wade I would argue. Yes the football under Wade was painful to watch and there were some low points (Alvechurch) but he avoided a relegation battle with the 2nd lowest budget in the league in his first season and I would suggest it was decisions and inaction made by the board which set him up to fail in his second season. Likewise anyone criticising DC needs to look at the bigger picture, he took a hopeless situation, brought some of the best football and results we've ever had in league one using the same set of players. Yes we fell at the final hurdle but a big part of that came down to injuries to key players and even then we really ought to have stayed up. In my eyes both were successful in there own right even though ultimately they failed by the point they left.
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HamTown wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 18:50 I do enjoy all the different "implications" taken from a dozen words in a quick tweet.

To be fair to the board they've got managerial appointments right for over a decade, including Flynn to an extent.
Yes Flynn was the correct man at the time.
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Robin wrote: 26 Sep 2025, 06:44
HamTown wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 19:52
andgarod wrote: 25 Sep 2025, 18:54 I would imagine the club secretary would be on hand for any details and minutes etc including action points
I suspect the rest of the board members excluding Mr and Mrs Garlick will be busy at work
Not a job for a volunteer
@Ham
DC did not work out exactly nor did Wade - just saying
We were one goal away from staying up under DC. Everyone's obviously got their own opinion but after such a disastrous start he gave us a chance when it looked like we were totally dead and buried.

Wades 1st season was brilliant, 2nd season was a disaster before we even started the season so I've got great sympathy for him.
The board got it right with both DC and Wade I would argue. Yes the football under Wade was painful to watch and there were some low points (Alvechurch) but he avoided a relegation battle with the 2nd lowest budget in the league in his first season and I would suggest it was decisions and inaction made by the board which set him up to fail in his second season. Likewise anyone criticising DC needs to look at the bigger picture, he took a hopeless situation, brought some of the best football and results we've ever had in league one using the same set of players. Yes we fell at the final hurdle but a big part of that came down to injuries to key players and even then we really ought to have stayed up. In my eyes both were successful in there own right even though ultimately they failed by the point they left.
It's extremely pernickety, but the only thing I disagree with in your post is that the situation was hopeless. 7 points adrift is not hopeless unless you only have 2 games to play.
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It was hopeless in the sense that DC began from an extremely low point. No confidence plus no goals and one point from something like 11 games is as bad as it gets. We needed significant improvement just to become a poor team and display ‘normal’ relegation form.

From the moment he arrived we needed mid table form to stay up which, given how abject we were, was a tall order. We managed it for several months but ran out of steam, not helped by the injury to Rob Street at the worst possible time.
andgarod
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I would suggest that DC failed
He never got us out of the relegation zone once
How many games at the end of the season did we fail to deliver
He was using CTFC as a stepping stone to get himself a bigger club

There is a saying along the lines of buy cheap buy twice

There was a safety net but there is not one this season
We need to hold on hopefully improve until January and start picking up points
Si Robin
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We were within touching distance of safety by Christmas. That we didn't once exit the relegation zone should be seen as failure.

It's well known I'm not DC's biggest fan, but one thing I do respect about him is that he himself would have seen his time at the club as a failure.
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longmover
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Alfie May saved a lot of peoples blushed *cough* Wade Elliott *cough*

he leaves, Elliott gets sacked having not won for 12 games.
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Yeah - Alfie May kept 16 clean sheets (a Cheltenham Town EFL record) and reduced our number of goals conceded from 80 to 61 all on his own.
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longmover wrote: 26 Sep 2025, 08:41 Alfie May saved a lot of peoples blushed *cough* Wade Elliott *cough*

he leaves, Elliott gets sacked having not won for 12 games.
Of course, Mike Duff never had the advantage of May in the team, did he? Or did May save Duff's blushes, too?
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Alfie actually played all 46 League games in 21/22 whereas he only played 39 in Wade's first season
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Didn't Wade also finish with more wins in his first season compared to Duff's previous...?
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Anybody spotted Steve Evans buying Diet Coke in Morrisons?
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asl wrote: 26 Sep 2025, 09:46 Didn't Wade also finish with more wins in his first season compared to Duff's previous...?
1 more League game, yes.
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