Joy Seppala?
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No I do not and I have always had worries about the club looking for investment as it changes the dynamics and inevitably the identity of the club will change. That said investment is needed if the club wants to progress. Personally I wouldn't take to much notice of an anonymous post from a fan. That's all I was trying to say.
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horlickfanclub
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Wisely said Horteng. I think that not all "investment "leads to progress. From some sources it leads to massive administration costs ( as per Coventry F,C.) with no net gain. I look forward to the "local consortium" coming forward.Horteng wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 16:11No I do not and I have always had worries about the club looking for investment as it changes the dynamics and inevitably the identity of the club will change. That said investment is needed if the club wants to progress. Personally I wouldn't take to much notice of an anonymous post from a fan. That's all I was trying to say.
Hear Hear. I know there are others that don't but, personally, I just basically want the club as it is, but with a new stand or two and some more money floating round for the budget. I don't want us to become something we're not - other clubs. I want us to continue the growth that kind of stalled 18 or 19 years ago. I know we have achieved more since then, L2 title, highest league finish, etc, but League One football and the Hazelwoods stand were where we reached back then. It's time for the next phase, but I'd rather not skip straight to the final phase by having someone coming in and throwing stupid money at us, and we end up losing our identity.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 17:59Wisely said Horteng. I think that not all "investment "leads to progress. From some sources it leads to massive administration costs ( as per Coventry F,C.) with no net gain. I look forward to the "local consortium" coming forward.Horteng wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 16:11No I do not and I have always had worries about the club looking for investment as it changes the dynamics and inevitably the identity of the club will change. That said investment is needed if the club wants to progress. Personally I wouldn't take to much notice of an anonymous post from a fan. That's all I was trying to say.
A million times this.Shade wrote: ↑07 Mar 2025, 11:30Hear Hear. I know there are others that don't but, personally, I just basically want the club as it is, but with a new stand or two and some more money floating round for the budget. I don't want us to become something we're not - other clubs. I want us to continue the growth that kind of stalled 18 or 19 years ago. I know we have achieved more since then, L2 title, highest league finish, etc, but League One football and the Hazelwoods stand were where we reached back then. It's time for the next phase, but I'd rather not skip straight to the final phase by having someone coming in and throwing stupid money at us, and we end up losing our identity.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 17:59Wisely said Horteng. I think that not all "investment "leads to progress. From some sources it leads to massive administration costs ( as per Coventry F,C.) with no net gain. I look forward to the "local consortium" coming forward.Horteng wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 16:11
No I do not and I have always had worries about the club looking for investment as it changes the dynamics and inevitably the identity of the club will change. That said investment is needed if the club wants to progress. Personally I wouldn't take to much notice of an anonymous post from a fan. That's all I was trying to say.
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Warwickshire Robin
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Spot on!Shade wrote: ↑07 Mar 2025, 11:30Hear Hear. I know there are others that don't but, personally, I just basically want the club as it is, but with a new stand or two and some more money floating round for the budget. I don't want us to become something we're not - other clubs. I want us to continue the growth that kind of stalled 18 or 19 years ago. I know we have achieved more since then, L2 title, highest league finish, etc, but League One football and the Hazelwoods stand were where we reached back then. It's time for the next phase, but I'd rather not skip straight to the final phase by having someone coming in and throwing stupid money at us, and we end up losing our identity.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 17:59Wisely said Horteng. I think that not all "investment "leads to progress. From some sources it leads to massive administration costs ( as per Coventry F,C.) with no net gain. I look forward to the "local consortium" coming forward.Horteng wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 16:11
No I do not and I have always had worries about the club looking for investment as it changes the dynamics and inevitably the identity of the club will change. That said investment is needed if the club wants to progress. Personally I wouldn't take to much notice of an anonymous post from a fan. That's all I was trying to say.
I thought I would ask Grok (the fountain of all knowledge
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Would Joy Seppala be a good owner for my football club?
The answer was:
Assessing the question
The request is about whether Joy Seppala would be a good owner for a football club.
1) Joy Seppala's linked with Cheltenham Town, but there's no deal confirmation yet.
2) Whether she'd be a good owner depends on the club's needs, like financial support or stability.
3) Based on her experience and commitment, she could be a good owner, but there are risks, like potential disputes.
4) Given her track record, she might be a good fit for a club needing financial backing and growth.
5) Her management style has led to disputes, which might be a concern.
Points 3 and 5 would cause most worry for me,
Would Joy Seppala be a good owner for my football club?
The answer was:
Assessing the question
The request is about whether Joy Seppala would be a good owner for a football club.
1) Joy Seppala's linked with Cheltenham Town, but there's no deal confirmation yet.
2) Whether she'd be a good owner depends on the club's needs, like financial support or stability.
3) Based on her experience and commitment, she could be a good owner, but there are risks, like potential disputes.
4) Given her track record, she might be a good fit for a club needing financial backing and growth.
5) Her management style has led to disputes, which might be a concern.
Points 3 and 5 would cause most worry for me,
I have a friend who is a Coventry city season ticket holder from Cheltenham. He said Cheltenham should keep well away from her… but on the other hand he also said that her and sisu were better with Coventry when they was in the lower divisions league 2 and 1 so make of that what you will l.. , I’d personally not go there.
I personally havent got millions to spend so kind of exempt myself from judging. Not that my input will be asked forBlakey 9 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2025, 09:06 I have a friend who is a Coventry city season ticket holder from Cheltenham. He said Cheltenham should keep well away from her… but on the other hand he also said that her and sisu were better with Coventry when they was in the lower divisions league 2 and 1 so make of that what you will l.. , I’d personally not go there.
Dave Boddy ex Coventry CEO in attendance (as reported by JP), seems to be well regarded there. Although was forced out by Worcester City a few years before and events which led to making them homeless! Not without baggage this lot.
Think he left just before Flynn took over.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67619808.amp
https://www.newport-county.co.uk/news/2 ... ave-county
Well if yesterday doesn't put them off nothing will
Slightly off topic, but worrying signs at Yeovil Town. Shows how fortunate we are to have level - headed people at CTFC. currently.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/fo ... n=sharebar
and..
https://talksport.com/football/3064085/ ... criticism/
It's not going to end well.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/fo ... n=sharebar
and..
https://talksport.com/football/3064085/ ... criticism/
It's not going to end well.
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Jerry St Clair
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Perfectly put.Shade wrote: ↑07 Mar 2025, 11:30Hear Hear. I know there are others that don't but, personally, I just basically want the club as it is, but with a new stand or two and some more money floating round for the budget. I don't want us to become something we're not - other clubs. I want us to continue the growth that kind of stalled 18 or 19 years ago. I know we have achieved more since then, L2 title, highest league finish, etc, but League One football and the Hazelwoods stand were where we reached back then. It's time for the next phase, but I'd rather not skip straight to the final phase by having someone coming in and throwing stupid money at us, and we end up losing our identity.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 17:59Wisely said Horteng. I think that not all "investment "leads to progress. From some sources it leads to massive administration costs ( as per Coventry F,C.) with no net gain. I look forward to the "local consortium" coming forward.Horteng wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025, 16:11
No I do not and I have always had worries about the club looking for investment as it changes the dynamics and inevitably the identity of the club will change. That said investment is needed if the club wants to progress. Personally I wouldn't take to much notice of an anonymous post from a fan. That's all I was trying to say.
Hang it in the Louvre, as they say.
Unsure as to why anyone would presume that just because an investor is 'local', that they would have any different motivation than any other investor. I would have thought if they were doing it out of love for the club, they would have invested before or shown some kind of interest before now?
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horlickfanclub
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Peoples circumstances change . Until large shareholders showed willing to step aside an interested party may not want to part with their money to be a minority participant.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
I would take the position that being a director with relatively small investments, is different to probably taking control and investing the sums being talked abouthorlickfanclub wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 13:25 Peoples circumstances change . Until large shareholders showed willing to step aside an interested party may not want to part with their money to be a minority participant.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
Very few clubs are locally owned now, especially in the top two divisions. It feels like a mix of nostalgia and comfort security but ultimately whoever comes in will bring an element of risk and hopefully generate increased crowds as Gloucestershire public will take more of an interest.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 13:25 Peoples circumstances change . Until large shareholders showed willing to step aside an interested party may not want to part with their money to be a minority participant.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
Funny this thread.
All you lot keep commenting on nothing you know,just stories off cov fans who also know absolutely jack s#!t about what happened.
The board have the facts on their laps,everything literally on their laps.
If they deem joy good enough to take this club forward then that's good enough for me.
The problem woth most of you is you're stuck in non league,want to stop the club moving forward because you love the little cheltenham nonsense, whether you like it or not football has changed and we need this.
Swear most of you would rather us playing cleeve in competitive league games than having a go with proper clubs.
Members of the board just this week have come out and made commitments on joy but you still believe Keith from cov who hasn't a clue
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All you lot keep commenting on nothing you know,just stories off cov fans who also know absolutely jack s#!t about what happened.
The board have the facts on their laps,everything literally on their laps.
If they deem joy good enough to take this club forward then that's good enough for me.
The problem woth most of you is you're stuck in non league,want to stop the club moving forward because you love the little cheltenham nonsense, whether you like it or not football has changed and we need this.
Swear most of you would rather us playing cleeve in competitive league games than having a go with proper clubs.
Members of the board just this week have come out and made commitments on joy but you still believe Keith from cov who hasn't a clue
Horlick please enlighten me, when did we have majority ownership from outside the area, and who was it please? Must admit I don’t recall that at all.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 13:25 Peoples circumstances change . Until large shareholders showed willing to step aside an interested party may not want to part with their money to be a minority participant.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
The board do not have a say in this apart from two of them who now have shares. It's a shareholder decision.CS85 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 16:31 Funny this thread.
All you lot keep commenting on nothing you know,just stories off cov fans who also know absolutely jack s#!t about what happened.
The board have the facts on their laps,everything literally on their laps.
If they deem joy good enough to take this club forward then that's good enough for me.
The problem woth most of you is you're stuck in non league,want to stop the club moving forward because you love the little cheltenham nonsense, whether you like it or not football has changed and we need this.
Swear most of you would rather us playing cleeve in competitive league games than having a go with proper clubs.
Members of the board just this week have come out and made commitments on joy but you still believe Keith from cov who hasn't a clue.
Except it isn't just Coventry fans, it's the local and national media, and the courts (who on more than one occasion ruled against SISU for cases that SISU brought).CS85 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 16:31 Funny this thread.
All you lot keep commenting on nothing you know,just stories off cov fans who also know absolutely jack s#!t about what happened.
The board have the facts on their laps,everything literally on their laps.
If they deem joy good enough to take this club forward then that's good enough for me.
The problem woth most of you is you're stuck in non league,want to stop the club moving forward because you love the little cheltenham nonsense, whether you like it or not football has changed and we need this.
Swear most of you would rather us playing cleeve in competitive league games than having a go with proper clubs.
Members of the board just this week have come out and made commitments on joy but you still believe Keith from cov who hasn't a clue.
There's the fact Coventry fell to the lowest point in 60 years - they were forced to play at 3 other football grounds (St Andrews, Sixfields and Pirelli Stadium) due to the actions of SISU.
But no, you're right - we should put our fingers in our ears, close our eyes and welcome any wealthy person in because they might spend loads of money and take us up the leagues - despite all of the evidence to th contrary.
I am concerned about Seppala/SISU but there is a variable in that they were in admin on verge of going bust when they took over so were already spiraling, so it wasn't all their fault and they did bring them back to where they started. It doesn't mean I want them here only that there are a few things to consider.
Shrewsbury Town takeover is off apparently.
They have three other interested parties .
Wonder if any are sniffing around us too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... g2d7pkpk4o
They have three other interested parties .
Wonder if any are sniffing around us too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... g2d7pkpk4o
where to start on this load of nonsenseCS85 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 16:31 Funny this thread.
All you lot keep commenting on nothing you know,just stories off cov fans who also know absolutely jack s#!t about what happened.
The board have the facts on their laps,everything literally on their laps.
If they deem joy good enough to take this club forward then that's good enough for me.
The problem woth most of you is you're stuck in non league,want to stop the club moving forward because you love the little cheltenham nonsense, whether you like it or not football has changed and we need this.
Swear most of you would rather us playing cleeve in competitive league games than having a go with proper clubs.
Members of the board just this week have come out and made commitments on joy but you still believe Keith from cov who hasn't a clue.
Interesting that the exclusivity period has a six month time limit and their prospective buyer has pulled out right at the end of that. Given we've not yet entered exclusivity it feels like we won't see the investment until late summer now in a best case scenario. That could really impact our playing staff plans.paperboy wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025, 10:09 Shrewsbury Town takeover is off apparently.
They have three other interested parties .
Wonder if any are sniffing around us too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... g2d7pkpk4o
In the past when other clubs have had issues with owners and been in trouble, a few on this forum have said stuff along the lines of "you weren't protesting against them when they were spending loads of money and taking you upwards, only when it all went wrong, even though they're a spiv."
Whereas most of us do completely trust the board and shareholders to do the right things for the club, we fans also need to make sure, and I hope we are given details of the buyer before/when a sale is agreed. Or at leats enough info that we can do our own research.
Whereas most of us do completely trust the board and shareholders to do the right things for the club, we fans also need to make sure, and I hope we are given details of the buyer before/when a sale is agreed. Or at leats enough info that we can do our own research.
I'm not sure that will be the case, even once we enter exclusivity the names of the people involved are likely to remain confidential.Shade wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025, 11:56 In the past when other clubs have had issues with owners and been in trouble, a few on this forum have said stuff along the lines of "you weren't protesting against them when they were spending loads of money and taking you upwards, only when it all went wrong, even though they're a spiv."
Whereas most of us do completely trust the board and shareholders to do the right things for the club, we fans also need to make sure, and I hope we are given details of the buyer before/when a sale is agreed. Or at leats enough info that we can do our own research.
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horlickfanclub
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Mr Smith and Mr Hughes.Fuller wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 16:39Horlick please enlighten me, when did we have majority ownership from outside the area, and who was it please? Must admit I don’t recall that at all.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 13:25 Peoples circumstances change . Until large shareholders showed willing to step aside an interested party may not want to part with their money to be a minority participant.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
Thanks. That would have been mid 1970’s, so 50 years ago. Must admit I always thought they were local? Where were they from?horlickfanclub wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025, 12:49Mr Smith and Mr Hughes.Fuller wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 16:39Horlick please enlighten me, when did we have majority ownership from outside the area, and who was it please? Must admit I don’t recall that at all.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑30 Mar 2025, 13:25 Peoples circumstances change . Until large shareholders showed willing to step aside an interested party may not want to part with their money to be a minority participant.
Locally based Directors have served the club well for over fifty years. The last time majority ownership was outside of the area it did not end well.
Our club then of course bears very little resemblance to CTFC in 2025.
Another director I recall round that time was Colin Badger who was connected with manager Dennis Allen.