The Robins Nest Forum

Robin wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 08:36 According to David Bloxham our budget was just under £2million last season so likely somewhere around that figure now. It may sound a lot but plenty of clubs at this level operating with over £5million now.

longmover wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 10:45

Robin wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 08:36 According to David Bloxham our budget was just under £2million last season so likely somewhere around that figure now. It may sound a lot but plenty of clubs at this level operating with over £5million now.

This is where the club is going to really struggle, we have no owner(s) who are willing to sink £3/4 million into the club per season and we have hardly any other income stream. We aren't going to be able to compete with clubs (smaller and similar size to us) on wages, it really is going to be tough.

Fuller wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 12:20

longmover wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 10:45

Robin wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 08:36 According to David Bloxham our budget was just under £2million last season so likely somewhere around that figure now. It may sound a lot but plenty of clubs at this level operating with over £5million now.

This is where the club is going to really struggle, we have no owner(s) who are willing to sink £3/4 million into the club per season and we have hardly any other income stream. We aren't going to be able to compete with clubs (smaller and similar size to us) on wages, it really is going to be tough.

Wouldn't surprise me Robin if some of the big clubs are operating with even higher wage bills.
And it's not just the playing budget, it's getting individuals or companies or the council onside to improve the outdated facilities at Whaddon Road and therefore generate extra income.
No doubt we are punching above our weight. No idea if we can ever to change the business model to everyone's satisfaction, but the club I look at is Wycombe. Sensibly run with seemingly good outside investment, improved facilities over the years and signing some great players for this level, and good luck to them.

andgarod wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 13:16 Didnt WW have a private investor /chairman so not a fan run club

At the last forum PG said that we were bottom 2 but equal with someone else and that there was a group of clubs ahead of us but not substantially
What constitutes a group 3 or more perhaps

What happens to clubs in administration etc can they just pump in money or is there a transfer ban in place

With the right manager and a grasp of our finances we can and will punch above our weight and this will attract other sponsors

plymrob wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 18:54 No, we do need to do that much.

Please, keep MD (hopefully), and let's just remain the over performing team, with a good 'underdog' team spirit.... League One is great. Pushing for (and definitely getting into) the Championship would be unreal - good times, but, I fear, a quick relegation and return... Let's just consolidate... For me, this means best manager and a keen team - over enthusiasm about hospitality and a bigger capacity ground - with the same average number of fans attending...(and a debt for building/improving it)... No thank you.

I think fan numbers are not going to change quickly and/or in the wanted for ratio... Just look at the end of season averages over the last decades... Slowly, very slowly, catchy monkey... maybe... More fans first, ground improvements follow... and please keep a standing home end!

plymrob wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 18:54 No, we do need to do that much.

Please, keep MD (hopefully), and let's just remain the over performing team, with a good 'underdog' team spirit.... League One is great. Pushing for (and definitely getting into) the Championship would be unreal - good times, but, I fear, a quick relegation and return... Let's just consolidate... For me, this means best manager and a keen team - over enthusiasm about hospitality and a bigger capacity ground - with the same average number of fans attending...(and a debt for building/improving it)... No thank you.

I think fan numbers are not going to change quickly and/or in the wanted for ratio... Just look at the end of season averages over the last decades... Slowly, very slowly, catchy monkey... maybe... More fans first, ground improvements follow... and please keep a standing home end!

Robin wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 14:02

andgarod wrote: ↑11 May 2022, 13:16 Didnt WW have a private investor /chairman so not a fan run club

At the last forum PG said that we were bottom 2 but equal with someone else and that there was a group of clubs ahead of us but not substantially
What constitutes a group 3 or more perhaps

What happens to clubs in administration etc can they just pump in money or is there a transfer ban in place

With the right manager and a grasp of our finances we can and will punch above our weight and this will attract other sponsors

I clearly don't know who the clubs are but it seems fairly obvious that ourselves, Burton, Fleetwood (now there owner has cut back a lot), Accrington, Shrewsbury, Morecambe and Cambridge will all be within relative proximity of each other wage budget wise. Wycombe would have been in that group too but have benefited from a season in a Championship (where TV revenue is significantly higher) and some external investment. Then you have clubs like Ipswich (I recall hearing their wage budget is probably five times the size of ours), Sunderland, Sheff Wednesday will be in a totally different league and probably somewhere around £10million a season.

We've done super well to get where we are and player sales in recent leagues have been a great platform for our exceptional manager but we absolutely need a new main stand to sustain this level of football. It will likely cost us £5-6 million but finding ways to fund it should be the strategic priority of the board.