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RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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This completely passed me by at the time (2009ish).

The player at the heart of match fixing at Bromley and a host of other teams in the National League (Conference as was) at the time.

The scale and extent is staggering, including the number of teams, the behaviour of the organised syndicate gangs, and the levels of betting on some of the games. Interesting to hear how they were eventually tracked and caught.

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I am always puzzled why the finger of blame is never pointed at the betting companies for offering stupid bets in team games that are so easily manipulated by just one player.
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Red Duke wrote: 22 Aug 2024, 19:29 I am always puzzled why the finger of blame is never pointed at the betting companies for offering stupid bets in team games that are so easily manipulated by just one player.
The amount of influence betting companies have in sport in this country and and politicians that lobby for them.

That's why the finger is never ever pointed at them.

as always, done to money.
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Red Duke wrote: 22 Aug 2024, 19:29 I am always puzzled why the finger of blame is never pointed at the betting companies for offering stupid bets in team games that are so easily manipulated by just one player.
Not sure you can blame the bookies. It’s only because of their investigations and analytics that match fixing gets caught.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 07:52
Red Duke wrote: 22 Aug 2024, 19:29 I am always puzzled why the finger of blame is never pointed at the betting companies for offering stupid bets in team games that are so easily manipulated by just one player.
Not sure you can blame the bookies. It’s only because of their investigations and analytics that match fixing gets caught.
Having bets on people being booked, time of first yellow card, first throw in, time of first corner can all be manipulated easily by one player.
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Red Duke wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 19:40
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 07:52
Red Duke wrote: 22 Aug 2024, 19:29 I am always puzzled why the finger of blame is never pointed at the betting companies for offering stupid bets in team games that are so easily manipulated by just one player.
Not sure you can blame the bookies. It’s only because of their investigations and analytics that match fixing gets caught.
Having bets on people being booked, time of first yellow card, first throw in, time of first corner can all be manipulated easily by one player.
They can, but it’s the fault of the criminals (including the player) not the bookies.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 20:28
Red Duke wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 19:40
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 07:52

Not sure you can blame the bookies. It’s only because of their investigations and analytics that match fixing gets caught.
Having bets on people being booked, time of first yellow card, first throw in, time of first corner can all be manipulated easily by one player.
They can, but it’s the fault of the criminals (including the player) not the bookies.
Do away with the temptation, the problem is solved.
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Red Duke wrote: 25 Aug 2024, 10:07
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 20:28
Red Duke wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 19:40

Having bets on people being booked, time of first yellow card, first throw in, time of first corner can all be manipulated easily by one player.
They can, but it’s the fault of the criminals (including the player) not the bookies.
Do away with the temptation, the problem is solved.
So close all shops to avoid the temptation of shop lifting?
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 25 Aug 2024, 11:21
Red Duke wrote: 25 Aug 2024, 10:07
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 24 Aug 2024, 20:28

They can, but it’s the fault of the criminals (including the player) not the bookies.
Do away with the temptation, the problem is solved.
So close all shops to avoid the temptation of shop lifting?
It seems that particular form of theft has accelerated with the advent of self check-outs at supermarkets. It comes down to these big companies thinking that it would save on labour costs but not realising they are losing more through theft.

Maybe if there were more severe consequences for shop theft, it would be curbed.
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