JP tweeting a midfielder from Gloucester City will be joining us at training next week on trial.
And we’ve offered a former Morecambe and Carlisle defender a contract.
There you go….
Little bit of news
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art vandalay
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Sam Lavelle? 28 year-old tall central defender, released by Carlisle following their relegation. He was captain there. Most of his FL appearances have been for Carlisle and Morecambe, with 18 months at Charlton in between; they paid £300,000 for him.
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Warwickshire Robin
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Geography would suggest he stays up north and if Harrogate offered Bradbury a better deal, money would also have you thinking he won't be hereWarwickshire Robin wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 12:33 Yes Sam Lavelle apparently:-
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/chelt ... m-lavelle/
Harrogate very likely didn't offer Bradbury a better deal financially, other factors were involved.Ihearye wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 12:49Geography would suggest he stays up north and if Harrogate offered Bradbury a better deal, money would also have you thinking he won't be hereWarwickshire Robin wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 12:33 Yes Sam Lavelle apparently:-
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/chelt ... m-lavelle/
No matter what was involved, a player who wanted to stay was not offered 'enough' to make him stay. That is what will make it doubtful we are making a better offer than the oppositionRobin wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 13:14Harrogate very likely didn't offer Bradbury a better deal financially, other factors were involved.Ihearye wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 12:49Geography would suggest he stays up north and if Harrogate offered Bradbury a better deal, money would also have you thinking he won't be hereWarwickshire Robin wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 12:33 Yes Sam Lavelle apparently:-
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/chelt ... m-lavelle/
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horlickfanclub
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I had to read that twice to try to make sense. " No matter what was involved....". I would say it does matter and agree with Robin.Ihearye wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 13:22No matter what was involved, a player who wanted to stay was not offered 'enough' to make him stay. That is what will make it doubtful we are making a better offer than the opposition
Well in that case would love to hear from Robin, why a person who wanted to stay, who, as far as I am aware, lives in his own house down here with his partner. What other factors were offered to make him do a 180? As he has stated there were other factors would love either of you to explain what the other factors were.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 13:39I had to read that twice to try to make sense. " No matter what was involved....". I would say it does matter and agree with Robin.
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horlickfanclub
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In the big interview he did with the press he explained the house was owned by a family member. If he moved on from there it was never stated. To move closer to the family is not an unusual decision.Ihearye wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 13:46Well in that case would love to hear from Robin, why a person who wanted to stay, who, as far as I am aware, lives in his own house down here with his partner. What other factors were offered to make him do a 180? As he has stated there were other factors would love either of you to explain what the other factors were.horlickfanclub wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 13:39I had to read that twice to try to make sense. " No matter what was involved....". I would say it does matter and agree with Robin.
From what I've heard, and again it's entirely anecdotal, so take it with as many pinches of salt as you like, he was low-balled, and basically made to not feel wanted.
He definitely wanted to stay, he and his partner were very much settled in the area and like it here.
He definitely wanted to stay, he and his partner were very much settled in the area and like it here.
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Another_FoD_Robin
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I am very much interested to know the reasons. I also heard he didn’t feel appreciated by certain people at the club
Absolutely spot onSi Robin wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 14:47 From what I've heard, and again it's entirely anecdotal, so take it with as many pinches of salt as you like, he was low-balled, and basically made to not feel wanted.
He definitely wanted to stay, he and his partner were very much settled in the area and like it here.
Am I missing something in all the secretive subterfuge?
I liked Tom and admired the effort he gave week in, week out. The club made him an offer which they thought was appropriate to his ability and the contribution he made in a somewhat porous defence. Despite his apparent love for the club and the area, he deemed the offer to be inappropriate and so he moved on, back to where his family live.
Is there something untoward, conspiratorial even unusual in all that?
I liked Tom and admired the effort he gave week in, week out. The club made him an offer which they thought was appropriate to his ability and the contribution he made in a somewhat porous defence. Despite his apparent love for the club and the area, he deemed the offer to be inappropriate and so he moved on, back to where his family live.
Is there something untoward, conspiratorial even unusual in all that?
ThisOldun wrote:Am I missing something in all the secretive subterfuge?
I liked Tom and admired the effort he gave week in, week out. The club made him an offer which they thought was appropriate to his ability and the contribution he made in a somewhat porous defence. Despite his apparent love for the club and the area, he deemed the offer to be inappropriate and so he moved on, back to where his family live.
Is there something untoward, conspiratorial even unusual in all that?
I have to agree. I liked Tom. A lot. But is he really good enough to have got us challenging for promotion to L1 again? He was solid-ish. His pace is next to none. He scored just a couple of goals from set pieces. Nice guy, but in all honesty we need better for the first team and if he doesn't want to be back up, fair enough, good luck.
No Stubbs. No Bradbury. You look at it and think "oh no!" but they were mainstays of a defence that was utter shite and the third or other members of that defence can't take all the blame.
No Stubbs. No Bradbury. You look at it and think "oh no!" but they were mainstays of a defence that was utter shite and the third or other members of that defence can't take all the blame.
Agree definitely, we can hopefully find an upgrade and some mobile centre backs.Shade wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025, 20:08 I have to agree. I liked Tom. A lot. But is he really good enough to have got us challenging for promotion to L1 again? He was solid-ish. His pace is next to none. He scored just a couple of goals from set pieces. Nice guy, but in all honesty we need better for the first team and if he doesn't want to be back up, fair enough, good luck.
No Stubbs. No Bradbury. You look at it and think "oh no!" but they were mainstays of a defence that was utter shite and the third or other members of that defence can't take all the blame.
I disagree that the defence was utter shite.
Utter shite don't win player of the season.
Utter shite don't hold there own in L1.
The shear number of individual errors (by all team members) is what cost us.
I imagine most season ticket holders were have preferred to build on last season with a solid back three that included Stubbs and Bradbury.
I know I would.
Given the fact an overall up front is sure to happen
Utter shite don't win player of the season.
Utter shite don't hold there own in L1.
The shear number of individual errors (by all team members) is what cost us.
I imagine most season ticket holders were have preferred to build on last season with a solid back three that included Stubbs and Bradbury.
I know I would.
Given the fact an overall up front is sure to happen
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Jerry St Clair
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JP tweeting that the Sam Lavelle likely won't be joining us.
Yes, a load of individual errors. Stubbs made about 4 or 5 of those and still got player of the season - that says something. 71 goals conceded in total, I think? Tot up all the individual errors, wipe them off the total, and you still have a lot of goals overall. Good players make mistakes. Ours made a lot. They were world beaters, apart from when they weren't.Garby74 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 19:42 I disagree that the defence was utter shite.
Utter shite don't win player of the season.
Utter shite don't hold there own in L1.
The shear number of individual errors (by all team members) is what cost us.
I imagine most season ticket holders were have preferred to build on last season with a solid back three that included Stubbs and Bradbury.
I know I would.
Given the fact an overall up front is sure to happen
When you concede the number of goals we did, I think we should look at the team set up and tactics as much as individual performances.
Yes, all of our defence f'ed up a few times each. Some of them were unforced, others were because they were exposed. Flynn plays a man-for-man approach, which can work, but it can also pull defenders into midfield following their man. I'm not saying individuals are blameless - there were way to many errors last season, but the tactics and coaching also played a big part in conceding more than 70 goals.
Yes, all of our defence f'ed up a few times each. Some of them were unforced, others were because they were exposed. Flynn plays a man-for-man approach, which can work, but it can also pull defenders into midfield following their man. I'm not saying individuals are blameless - there were way to many errors last season, but the tactics and coaching also played a big part in conceding more than 70 goals.
they better already have a couple in the bag, or there will be a couple of people with questions to answer. Bradbury was played week in week out, so MF obviously had no issues with playing him. Maybe Steve Cotterill is right about the dof rolekags wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025, 20:44Agree definitely, we can hopefully find an upgrade and some mobile centre backs.Shade wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025, 20:08 I have to agree. I liked Tom. A lot. But is he really good enough to have got us challenging for promotion to L1 again? He was solid-ish. His pace is next to none. He scored just a couple of goals from set pieces. Nice guy, but in all honesty we need better for the first team and if he doesn't want to be back up, fair enough, good luck.
No Stubbs. No Bradbury. You look at it and think "oh no!" but they were mainstays of a defence that was utter shite and the third or other members of that defence can't take all the blame.