Adam Murray

[Jon Palmer]

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[Fuller]

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What the ….
That’s a big loss to us. He was doing an excellent job and I saw him as a successor to DC. Why would he drop down three levels? Don’t say it’s money?
Genuinely shocked

[andgarod]

Oh no
He will know all our targets and nick them
So is that a wage saved
Was there compensation or just a gentlemans agreement
Has Rusty been re installed or Vincent promoted

Now DC has got to get another mate in
Davies as player coach or one of the the others

[asl]

I'd be very surprised if the entire story here is that a job came up in the Conf South and he decided to take it... The presser is almost as abrupt as his departure!

[Shade]

Feels like a stab in the back considering his interview a couple of weeks ago with JP. The statement from the club makes it seem like he's just jumped ship as well.

[Si Robin]

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What the ….
That’s a big loss to us. He was doing an excellent job and I saw him as a successor to DC. Why would he drop down three levels? Don’t say it’s money?
Genuinely shocked

I'm not sure money would be the overriding factor - suspect it's more that he wanted to be a number 1, even three levels down.

This will be a big loss and the biggest issue for me is that he probably wasn't on a long term deal which means we'll get nowt for him. Again!!

When will the club bloody learn?

[Robin]

I'm lost for words here and had to read this twice to check it wasn't a parody. We have become a circus club off the field I'm afraid yet nobody will hold those responsible to account. I said it before well intentioned or not we are ran by amateurs and until that changes we will never learn.

[Malabus]

The maxim of 'no loyalty in football' has been proven once again.

This is concerning, wouldn't be surprised if Ashley Vincent takes the role.

The turnover in staff, suggests something is wrong.

[Warwickshire Robin]

A real kick in the teeth just when there seemed to be light at the end of the tunnel. I know of someone who was in the running for the job when AM took it who turned it down for this very reason, he still had ambitions of being a no 1 and didn't want to take the job and then leave in a matter of weeks if another offer came. I guess some people just have different morals!

A strange move for AM really, I know he has experience at this level with Fylde and probably always wanted to be a No1, but looked at Eastbourne and they were taken over in the summer and the manager who got them finishes of 3rd (in the Covid cancelled season), 6th & 8th and to the FA Cup 1st Round in 2020 was ditched in favour of a manager who at the time the club stated 'Moving forward we will have a more data driven approach to recruitment, preparation and analysis, using the latest AI technology, equipment and platforms to manage the performance and welfare of our players.' This obviously worked well as they sacked him after half a season with them in the relegation zone 6 points from safety! Another new owner who has no idea on football???!

As for us, I see the criticism above about how was this allowed to happen but I guess partly it is down to where we are in the pecking order. We just cannot pay the high wages to attract the top talent so we have to offer inducements in other ways i.e. clauses about being able to leave if other offers come in. I don't like it, but we have to put up with it or we just get people no one else wants and there will be a reason for that.

[shevates]

What I don't understand, he's now at a lower level then when he left fylde to join us.

[Robin]

The maxim of 'no loyalty in football' has been proven once again.

This is concerning, wouldn't be surprised if Ashley Vincent takes the role.

The turnover in staff, suggests something is wrong.

Unfortunately there is no accountability with those running the club as to why this has been allowed to happen only a few months after the same thing happened in the summer. In any other work place there would be questions about performance but not here because those in charge are fans so too many give them a free pass.

[Artemis]

Of course there's accountability. Like in any other business, the directors are accountable to the shareholders, of which the Trust is a major one. Trust members can make our views known to the board via the FED. Non members can join the trust and do the same.

[horlickfanclub]

The maxim of 'no loyalty in football' has been proven once again.

This is concerning, wouldn't be surprised if Ashley Vincent takes the role.

The turnover in staff, suggests something is wrong.

Unfortunately there is no accountability with those running the club as to why this has been allowed to happen only a few months after the same thing happened in the summer. In any other work place there would be questions about performance but not here because those in charge are fans so too many give them a free pass.

The man left of his own free will to be a number one. If it was a player lacking commitment we would all say "off you go". Another excuse to have a snipe but as soon as the new assistant is appointed the last one will be forgotten.

[longmover]

I presume Eastbourne will pay way more than we ever can, he seems a pretty driven character and would do what he wants for him.

Again the board need to be asked questions as to how this materialized, I know you can't control the individual but the club can protect their 'assets' and lessen the impact if the loss.

[horlickfanclub]

I presume Eastbourne will pay way more than we ever can, he seems a pretty driven character and would do what he wants for him.

Again the board need to be asked questions as to how this materialized, I know you can't control the individual but the club can protect their 'assets' and lessen the impact if the loss.

How?

[Robin]

I presume Eastbourne will pay way more than we ever can, he seems a pretty driven character and would do what he wants for him.

Again the board need to be asked questions as to how this materialized, I know you can't control the individual but the club can protect their 'assets' and lessen the impact if the loss.

Unless they have a multi-millionaire owner then that can't possibly be true. Our crowds are around five times the size of theirs, prices are likely about double and we get football league TV money in the region of £800k on top of that.

[Jerry St Clair]

Unfortunately there is no accountability with those running the club as to why this has been allowed to happen only a few months after the same thing happened in the summer. In any other work place there would be questions about performance but not here because those in charge are fans so too many give them a free pass.

You can’t stop an employee leaving, contract or no contract. We might have got some compensation but he’d still be off and we couldn’t stop it.

[Lord Elpuz]

Why the panic about Murray going? There are plenty of decent coaches out there and I’m sure Darrell will have already highlighted some suitable replacements.

I’d just like to say thank you to Adam Murray for his valued work here and wish him well at his new Club. Where he’s going represents zero threat to CTFC (unlike the Shrewsbury debacle).

There are any number of reasons Murray’s gone and we may never be party to whichever is the actual reason. Sadly, people love to speculate and that just winds up everyone - culminating in people having a go at the Board. The Board deserves huge credit for bringing in Darrell Clarke, so let’s not start pelting the Board.

[HamTown]

Why the panic about Murray going? There are plenty of decent coaches out there and I’m sure Darrell will have already highlighted some suitable replacements.

I’d just like to say thank you to Adam Murray for his valued work here and wish him well at his new Club. Where he’s going represents zero threat to CTFC (unlike the Shrewsbury debacle).

There are any number of reasons Murray’s gone and we may never be party to whichever is the actual reason. Sadly, people love to speculate and that just winds up everyone - culminating in people having a go at the Board. The Board deserves huge credit for bringing in Darrell Clarke, so let’s not start pelting the Board.

Wise words and you'll only find a post like this on the nest!

From the article it looks like he wants to get back in the manager seat and wants to turn around an underperforming team, good luck to him.

[Jim]

This is a real shame, I have been really impressed with him since he joined - he did seem perhaps over-qualified to be a number 2, which ultimately might have been the issue. There are a few reasons him leaving, and I guess which you believe depends on your cynicism or outlook:

1. He realised being a number 2 wasn't right for him and was itching to get back to being a number 1
2. Eastbourne are offering him more money (unlikely)
3. He'd fallen out with Darrell and wanted out at the first opportunity
4. He saw the club was only heading one way so wanted to jump a sinking ship
5. Another reason only known to him

I doubt it's any of 2,3 or 4 to be honest.

[horlickfanclub]

Some common sense from Lord and Ham. Eastbourne have sold a young striker to Wolves so might have a pounds to spare.

[Si Robin]

What I don't understand, he's now at a lower level then when he left fylde to join us.

He didn't leave Fylde to join us - he was sacked by Fylde and joined us not long after

[Robin]

Why the panic about Murray going? There are plenty of decent coaches out there and I’m sure Darrell will have already highlighted some suitable replacements.

I’d just like to say thank you to Adam Murray for his valued work here and wish him well at his new Club. Where he’s going represents zero threat to CTFC (unlike the Shrewsbury debacle).

There are any number of reasons Murray’s gone and we may never be party to whichever is the actual reason. Sadly, people love to speculate and that just winds up everyone - culminating in people having a go at the Board. The Board deserves huge credit for bringing in Darrell Clarke, so let’s not start pelting the Board.

Herein is the problem, people will just overlook mistakes made. We've just lost someone who has been absolutely instrumental to our turnaround yet there will always be a few unwilling to acknowledge where the blame lies.

[longmover]

Just hope this doesn't have any effect on potential signings.

[Artemis]

Why the panic about Murray going? There are plenty of decent coaches out there and I’m sure Darrell will have already highlighted some suitable replacements.

I’d just like to say thank you to Adam Murray for his valued work here and wish him well at his new Club. Where he’s going represents zero threat to CTFC (unlike the Shrewsbury debacle).

There are any number of reasons Murray’s gone and we may never be party to whichever is the actual reason. Sadly, people love to speculate and that just winds up everyone - culminating in people having a go at the Board. The Board deserves huge credit for bringing in Darrell Clarke, so let’s not start pelting the Board.

Herein is the problem, people will just overlook mistakes made. We've just lost someone who has been absolutely instrumental to our turnaround yet there will always be a few unwilling to acknowledge where the blame lies.

What mistakes have been made and by whom? AM was an employee. Employees leave. He's chosen to leave. Get over it.
DC will appoint someone else. The sun will come up tomorrow.

[Si Robin]

The only issue I have is that he's gone and we've got nothing in return for it. His contract was a standard working contract and not the same as what DC is on.

The real question is, do we want to keep giving backroom staff standard working contracts which requires them to work a notice period (making it easier to let them go) and go for nothing, or would we rather have them on set time contracts whereby we are compensated if they leave by choice or they are if we sack them?

My feeling is that Murray should have been on the latter and should only have been able to leave if we received compensation - instead he's been able to go and we're dumped in the shite again.

I have no issue with Murray going and being number one somewhere else, regardless of the gap in levels. I do have an issue with us being left in the lurch.

[horlickfanclub]

Well said Artemis. Eastbourne have appointed a new recruitment man. He has previously worked for Manchester United and Brighton. He might be and old contact of Mr Murray. He will be the man responsible for the appointment.

Reference Si Robin comments as has been said on here before ,our Chairman is a specialist in employment law and unless someone here has superior experience and qualifications is best placed to advise on contract terms.

[Robin]

The only issue I have is that he's gone and we've got nothing in return for it. His contract was a standard working contract and not the same as what DC is on.

The real question is, do we want to keep giving backroom staff standard working contracts which requires them to work a notice period (making it easier to let them go) and go for nothing, or would we rather have them on set time contracts whereby we are compensated if they leave by choice or they are if we sack them?

My feeling is that Murray should have been on the latter and should only have been able to leave if we received compensation - instead he's been able to go and we're dumped in the shite again.

I have no issue with Murray going and being number one somewhere else, regardless of the gap in levels. I do have an issue with us being left in the lurch.

Absolutely spot on Si Robin. Same mistakes have been allowed to happen last summer and the one before it yet nothing learnt. This just doesn't happen at other clubs at this level and in my view is just a symptom of having an amateur board with no CEO or accountability, it breeds complacency at the top.

[Fuller]

……. and how long until DC quits?
Inevitable he’ll be off too, probably sooner rather than later.
Let’s face it, we are little old Cheltenham.
I’ll get my tin hat.

[art vandalay]

I’m not sure that he was even on a contract and there may have been an understanding that we wouldn’t stand in his way if he had a chance to return to management, which is clearly where his ambitions lie and seems fair enough. There are only a limited number of full-time clubs (I’m pretty sure Eastbourne went full-time this season or last) and if you’ve been sacked by Fylde you might not get another chance.

Nevertheless, it doesn’t look good on him that he didn’t even stay until the end of the season and, as for the board, after the complete balls-up in the summer, it beggars belief that we have another member of staff leaving after about 10 weeks.

[horlickfanclub]

It would be interesting to know what experience Robin, Art and Si have in employing people. Have they ever changed jobs? Were their employers taken to task and proved to be amateurs ? We have well qualified people and successful business owners running the club. The same people who get blamed by some if employees leave are the people who recruited Darrell Clarke . Was that an amateur appointment? I do not think so.

[Lord Elpuz]

If anyone wants to see a totally amateur setup in Professional top 4 division football … look no further than the Fools on the Hill. We at CTFC can’t be compared to that shambles.

We live within our means; sometimes we get caught out because of the over-inflated sums that agents & players demand - but we always recover. The Board are the ones who steer us through those constant choppy waters.

[andgarod]

There are calls on here about the board being accountable
The board are not accountable to anyone or so it seems
There are 4 major shareholders 1 seems to watch
another seems to be along way away
the third being chairman puppet master and the 4th is the trust who are only accepted because a previous chairman was called out when the trust secretary left his money
My family probably own as many shares as the board members do and there is no accountabilty to the supporters
FLO is a club employee
We will not know what happened in this case so in DC we trust until he gets head hunted
Move on and accept that the board are bomb proof and we just have to suck it up

Well done to the board to get the manager in but they now have to back him
We need players in and either an assistant manager or 1st team coach

3 points on Saturday and this will all be forgotten
COYR

[ctfc-fan]

Unfortunately there is no accountability with those running the club as to why this has been allowed to happen only a few months after the same thing happened in the summer. In any other work place there would be questions about performance but not here because those in charge are fans so too many give them a free pass.

You can’t stop an employee leaving, contract or no contract. We might have got some compensation but he’d still be off and we couldn’t stop it.

Ah, the voice of reason finally!

[ctfc-fan]

Why the panic about Murray going? There are plenty of decent coaches out there and I’m sure Darrell will have already highlighted some suitable replacements.

I’d just like to say thank you to Adam Murray for his valued work here and wish him well at his new Club. Where he’s going represents zero threat to CTFC (unlike the Shrewsbury debacle).

There are any number of reasons Murray’s gone and we may never be party to whichever is the actual reason. Sadly, people love to speculate and that just winds up everyone - culminating in people having a go at the Board. The Board deserves huge credit for bringing in Darrell Clarke, so let’s not start pelting the Board.

Spot on. If he doesn’t want to be part of our adventure then let him go. At least it’s not DC that’s gone.