New head of recruitment

[Jon Palmer]

https://bit.ly/NewCTFCHoR

[Ihearye]

https://bit.ly/NewCTFCHoR

oh well

[I-Love-CTFC]

The cheap option. Such a Cheltenham appointment. There can't be many roles Russ hasn't done.

[Ralph]

I can see why they named him but I will admit I'm disappointed

[ctfc-fan]

Interesting. So that would suggest a new assistant manager coming in maybe?

[Horteng]

thought it was April the 1st again. Backwards step

[Shade]

Yes, it says a new coach will be brought in.

Surprising, but no reason why he can't do it. Judge him on how he does, not his name or what he's done at the club before. He's never let us down, btw. Who the hell was anyone even expecting as "Head of Recruitment"?! Did anyone really know anything about Micky Moore when he came in, other than he had failed as a manager a few times?

"Cheap option"
What a lazy comment. The salary was posted, wasn't it? So he's probably getting more than that as it would have no doubt been a pay cut.

[Fuller]

Was it worth interviewing anyone else and waiting for a month?

[Broadway Brian]

Was it worth interviewing anyone else and waiting for a month?

Yes. Obviously.

[Horteng]

Was it worth interviewing anyone else and waiting for a month?

Nope. See WE’s appointment

[Si Robin]

I, for one, am absolutely shocked by the responses to this!!

Honestly, Cheltenham fans must be the most predictable in the World for responses to signings/appointments.

It's someone from within the club - it must be the cheap option, it's someone no-one has heard of - must be because they're cheap or not wanted anywhere else, it's someone who's failed elsewhere - we've only got them because no-one else wants them, etc, etc, etc....

Russ knows the club like the back of his hand, he knows the restraints he'll be under and I've no doubt that with his vast experience he's built up a large number of contacts. I actually think this is a great move, especially as I don't know any of the other candidates.

[Si Robin]

Was it worth interviewing anyone else and waiting for a month?

Nope. See WE’s appointment

And what a disaster that's proven to be!!

[Shade]

Agree Si, it's absolutely mental.

What David Bloxham and Russ have to say: https://www.ctfc.com/news/2023/june/mil ... abohYBdKuU

[andgarod]

Hmm
Firstly all the best Russ

Did WE want another coach and they needed to move Russ on I mean up
MB is now first team coach

So we see Russ around the club hopefully he knows /knew what our D of F had planned

Cost cutting or rather being economical
Dof F,Assistant manager,1st team coach 3 wages we now have 1 wage while waiting for for the new coach

I hope it all works out

[Uppy]

Initial thoughts are I’d have preferred a specialist but there’s really no reason to give him the job unless he was the best candidate so hopefully he proves them right

[PCrobin]

Hopefully he was copying over Micky’s shoulder at the end of term..

[HamTown]

I imagine from Russ's POV he's reached the ceiling of where he can go on the managerial path at the club and thinks there's more scope for progression with this role

As for the "cheap option" people seem to think the board are like dragons hoarding gold and letting the rest of the club feed of scraps (this comment may be slightly influenced by me just starting to watch Rings of Power). I'm sure MM could have been seen as the cheap option too when he joined

[SOFT MACHINE]

No disrespect to our wonderful club servant, Rusty Milk Can but..........really? So, all the time spent training at Seasons and in the dug-out on match-days he's also been networking or has he / the club pinched MM's crib sheet?
Time will tell and do we / will we have that time?
Lot of question marks in my post and, surely, some around this appointment.
However, as I said, a loyal, wonderful servant so we know he'll be doing his best. Let's hope he still has viable links to The Arse! Òooooh, look, an exclamation mark.

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

When we appointed Moore he had not worked for a year after only lasting three months as manager of Barrow in 2017. Prior to that he had some other non-league coaching/assistant roles.

I’d say Russ has more EFL coaching credentials and experience than Moore did, who got the job as a mate of a mate of Wilcox.

Maybe the other applicants were other non-league or inexperienced candidates and Russ had more credentials than them.

As per above posters, there is no evidence for the ‘cheap option’ and ‘lazy appointment’ tantrums in this thread.

Why not wait to see how the season goes before judging?

[Anteros]

Happy with the appointment.
Continuity.
Knows the club inside out.
Knows the constraints.
Knows our recruitment model
Has a good understanding and relationship with the board, academy, coaches and staff.
Been in the game a long time.
Likeable bloke.

[paperboy]

Yes, it says a new coach will be brought in.

Surprising, but no reason why he can't do it. Judge him on how he does, not his name or what he's done at the club before. He's never let us down, btw. Who the hell was anyone even expecting as "Head of Recruitment"?! Did anyone really know anything about Micky Moore when he came in, other than he had failed as a manager a few times?

"Cheap option"
What a lazy comment. The salary was posted, wasn't it? So he's probably getting more than that as it would have no doubt been a pay cut.

Agree with all of that.


Love to know......

Why did Russ apply for the job?
Did Wade or anyone at the club suggest he should apply?
Would Wade rather he had stayed as his assistant?
Apart from many years in the game and presumably building relationships what else will he bring to the table?
Will it be a big change from rocking up at the training ground every day to doing lots of motorway miles each week?

Head of Recruitment is far more important IMHO than finding a new coach.

Wonder if Matt Utteridge might apply?

[Ihearye]

I, for one, am absolutely shocked by the responses to this!!

Honestly, Cheltenham fans must be the most predictable in the World for responses to signings/appointments.

It's someone from within the club - it must be the cheap option, it's someone no-one has heard of - must be because they're cheap or not wanted anywhere else, it's someone who's failed elsewhere - we've only got them because no-one else wants them, etc, etc, etc....

Russ knows the club like the back of his hand, he knows the restraints he'll be under and I've no doubt that with his vast experience he's built up a large number of contacts. I actually think this is a great move, especially as I don't know any of the other candidates.

I doubt that his intimate knowledge over the years of ctfc will play a major part in identifying and recruiting playing staff. I was not aware he was part of the process on the last few years. Indeed on another thread it appears MM did it mostly himself. Time will tell, but there is nothing to say his years as second in command makes him best place as head of recruitment. As I say, time will tell

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

I, for one, am absolutely shocked by the responses to this!!

Honestly, Cheltenham fans must be the most predictable in the World for responses to signings/appointments.

It's someone from within the club - it must be the cheap option, it's someone no-one has heard of - must be because they're cheap or not wanted anywhere else, it's someone who's failed elsewhere - we've only got them because no-one else wants them, etc, etc, etc....

Russ knows the club like the back of his hand, he knows the restraints he'll be under and I've no doubt that with his vast experience he's built up a large number of contacts. I actually think this is a great move, especially as I don't know any of the other candidates.

I doubt that his intimate knowledge over the years of ctfc will play a major part in identifying and recruiting playing staff. I was not aware he was part of the process on the last few years. Indeed on another thread it appears MM did it mostly himself. Time will tell, but there is nothing to say his years as second in command makes him best place as head of recruitment. As I say, time will tell

But did 3 months as Barrow manager preceded by second or third in command at other non-league clubs make Moore best placed?

I personally think Russ starts the role with better credentials than Moore did, so that can only be viewed as a step up.

Sure there may be more experienced and better heads of recruitment out there, but we are one of the lowest paying employers in the EFL so our options will never extend to everyone out there.

As you say, time will tell.

[Nesty]

Good luck Rusty ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[bigdavejambo]

considering some of the managers RM has worked with at CTFC then im sure he will have a decent knowledge of what is required and potentially some tips from those ex managers

[Ihearye]

considering some of the managers RM has worked with at CTFC then im sure he will have a decent knowledge of what is required and potentially some tips from those ex managers

I hear all that and agree with all you say. My concern is that having a decent knowledge of what is required etc. May not translate itself into the ability to locate, attract and sign what is required. Would have been good to hear in the clubs statement, what role Russ has played in the past (given his extensive contacts), in the identifying of targets and getting them on board. I merely find it 'odd', that we have all this time had a shining head of recruitment waiting in the wings, who we don't seem to have utilised (?).
Hope it all works out, for all concerned and that we start filling some squad gaps

[slinky_dog]

I admit to being a bit underwhelmed when I first saw it and yet there is no logic in that. I doubt many applicants would have a better CV than RM to deliver this role. RM’s CV is far better than MM’s when he secured the role 5-years ago.

An external applicant potentially brings a fresh approach and new contacts but also brings additional risk.

The handover from MM seems to have been managed responsibly and hopefully that will mean this closed season delivers a better outcome than I fear.

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

considering some of the managers RM has worked with at CTFC then im sure he will have a decent knowledge of what is required and potentially some tips from those ex managers

I hear all that and agree with all you say. My concern is that having a decent knowledge of what is required etc. May not translate itself into the ability to locate, attract and sign what is required. Would have been good to hear in the clubs statement, what role Russ has played in the past (given his extensive contacts), in the identifying of targets and getting them on board. I merely find it 'odd', that we have all this time had a shining head of recruitment waiting in the wings, who we don't seem to have utilised (?).
Hope it all works out, for all concerned and that we start filling some squad gaps

Just because he was deemed the best option or everyone who applied doesn’t necessarily mean he is “shining”.

We can only appoint the best candidate out of those who want the role….

[Ihearye]

RCS, just echoing the sentiments in the DB statement

[RegencyCheltenhamSpa]

RCS, just echoing the sentiments in the DB statement

Fair point.

Re the statement, is this the moment we find out Tom Ware was the real brains behind Mickey Moore’s success and Shrewsbury have been sold a pup like a kipper?

[horlickfanclub]

Excellent news. Mr Milton has all the right experience to do a good job.

[Lord Elpuz]

It’s unfair to judge Russ Milton now - judge him in a years time.

He is the continuity option, and as we keep hearing from the Club “ It’s a Cheltenham Thing”. I’m sure Reading, Wigan, Fleetwood, Morecambe and probably others, wish they had something like “A Cheltenham Thing”. Stay in budget, stay in business.

Good luck Russ.

[Ihearye]

RCS, just echoing the sentiments in the DB statement

Fair point.

Re the statement, is this the moment we find out Tom Ware was the real brains behind Mickey Moore’s success and Shrewsbury have been sold a pup like a kipper?

Had the exact same thought myself. Seems Ton was the one putting in the long hours

[Fuller]

RCS, just echoing the sentiments in the DB statement

Fair point.

Re the statement, is this the moment we find out Tom Ware was the real brains behind Mickey Moore’s success and Shrewsbury have been sold a pup like a kipper?

Had the exact same thought myself. Seems Tom was the one putting in the long hours

Must admit I didn’t know much about Tom Ware, and it appears he is doing a very good job, but how long until he’s tapped up by someone else?

[Ihearye]

Yes, it says a new coach will be brought in.

Surprising, but no reason why he can't do it. Judge him on how he does, not his name or what he's done at the club before. He's never let us down, btw. Who the hell was anyone even expecting as "Head of Recruitment"?! Did anyone really know anything about Micky Moore when he came in, other than he had failed as a manager a few times?

"Cheap option"
What a lazy comment. The salary was posted, wasn't it? So he's probably getting more than that as it would have no doubt been a pay cut.

Out of interest, what was the figure posted?