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andgarod
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JP tweeting analyst is leaving to go and work ay Cardiff

This raises a number of questions
Who is going to do his job now
Does he know who we are after - but then Cardiff will not be fishing in our pool
Where does that leave Russ and Ash and whoever brother Pete and DofF bring in

Why dont all these people who know all the contracts and scores from computers not apply for the analyst job
Si Robin
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How do you know they don't?
ctfc-fan
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In answer to your question, I’d say another analyst will do his job….

What’s an analyst got to do with playing staff recruitment, probably not a lot.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 12:08 In answer to your question, I’d say another analyst will do his job….

What’s an analyst got to do with playing staff recruitment, probably not a lot.
That depends on how much our recruiters use performance analysis.

Say the analyst shows that in the last 10 mins of every game our average number, length and speed of sprints goes down, heart rates go up too high, and opponents cover more distance than us then the recruitment team will hopefully be after players with better stamina to improve our running numbers at the end of games. Similarly if the analyst shows that we have poor passing in a specific area of the pitch, or engage the first tackle too deep or high etc. These stats should all inform our recruitment to make sure we get in the right attributes in the right position. You wouldn’t but a new component for a car or washing machine without checking the specification meets your set-up, same with a football manager buying a new cog (player) for the team system.
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Ihearye
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 30 May 2024, 15:57
ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 12:08 In answer to your question, I’d say another analyst will do his job….

What’s an analyst got to do with playing staff recruitment, probably not a lot.
That depends on how much our recruiters use performance analysis.

Say the analyst shows that in the last 10 mins of every game our average number, length and speed of sprints goes down, heart rates go up too high, and opponents cover more distance than us then the recruitment team will hopefully be after players with better stamina to improve our running numbers at the end of games. Similarly if the analyst shows that we have poor passing in a specific area of the pitch, or engage the first tackle too deep or high etc. These stats should all inform our recruitment to make sure we get in the right attributes in the right position. You wouldn’t but a new component for a car or washing machine without checking the specification meets your set-up, same with a football manager buying a new cog (player) for the team system.
;) all true, unless grandpa is buddies with him. Then we don't even wait for the manager to have a say
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ctfc-fan
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 12:08 In answer to your question, I’d say another analyst will do his job….

What’s an analyst got to do with playing staff recruitment, probably not a lot.
That depends on how much our recruiters use performance analysis.

Say the analyst shows that in the last 10 mins of every game our average number, length and speed of sprints goes down, heart rates go up too high, and opponents cover more distance than us then the recruitment team will hopefully be after players with better stamina to improve our running numbers at the end of games. Similarly if the analyst shows that we have poor passing in a specific area of the pitch, or engage the first tackle too deep or high etc. These stats should all inform our recruitment to make sure we get in the right attributes in the right position. You wouldn’t but a new component for a car or washing machine without checking the specification meets your set-up, same with a football manager buying a new cog (player) for the team system.
But any research done to date would be the club’s property, not the analysts and I’m sure there are clauses in their contracts.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 19:00
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 12:08 In answer to your question, I’d say another analyst will do his job….

What’s an analyst got to do with playing staff recruitment, probably not a lot.
That depends on how much our recruiters use performance analysis.

Say the analyst shows that in the last 10 mins of every game our average number, length and speed of sprints goes down, heart rates go up too high, and opponents cover more distance than us then the recruitment team will hopefully be after players with better stamina to improve our running numbers at the end of games. Similarly if the analyst shows that we have poor passing in a specific area of the pitch, or engage the first tackle too deep or high etc. These stats should all inform our recruitment to make sure we get in the right attributes in the right position. You wouldn’t but a new component for a car or washing machine without checking the specification meets your set-up, same with a football manager buying a new cog (player) for the team system.
But any research done to date would be the club’s property, not the analysts and I’m sure there are clauses in their contracts.
Yes, but then we are relying on a) the club to be able to interpret the data and b) the club to crunch the numbers of potential new signings without an analyst.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 19:00
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: That depends on how much our recruiters use performance analysis.

Say the analyst shows that in the last 10 mins of every game our average number, length and speed of sprints goes down, heart rates go up too high, and opponents cover more distance than us then the recruitment team will hopefully be after players with better stamina to improve our running numbers at the end of games. Similarly if the analyst shows that we have poor passing in a specific area of the pitch, or engage the first tackle too deep or high etc. These stats should all inform our recruitment to make sure we get in the right attributes in the right position. You wouldn’t but a new component for a car or washing machine without checking the specification meets your set-up, same with a football manager buying a new cog (player) for the team system.
But any research done to date would be the club’s property, not the analysts and I’m sure there are clauses in their contracts.
Yes, but then we are relying on a) the club to be able to interpret the data and b) the club to crunch the numbers of potential new signings without an analyst.
The new analyst would do it Image
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Will Ferry going to Dundee United this week. Watch this space. Good move for him.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 21:00
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
ctfc-fan wrote: 30 May 2024, 19:00
But any research done to date would be the club’s property, not the analysts and I’m sure there are clauses in their contracts.
Yes, but then we are relying on a) the club to be able to interpret the data and b) the club to crunch the numbers of potential new signings without an analyst.
The new analyst would do it Image
Sorry, I was assuming we wouldn’t have a new analyst in place during this window. If we do then absolutely yes, the new one will do it and it doesn’t really make a difference.
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CTFC.Harry wrote: 30 May 2024, 23:37 Will Ferry going to Dundee United this week. Watch this space. Good move for him.
I would be disappointed if that's true, good player and could surely of got a better move than that but most importantly we would not get any compensation then either.
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So with Lloydy leaving today, is that the end of the player departures for now?
Possibility that Freestone might yet depart if the offer is big enough but not sure there will be bids for anyone else. Maybe King.
So from the last day of the season, including loans, how many have now departed and can anyone name them all please?
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see Pett leave before the end of the window.
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Broadway Brian wrote: 07 Jun 2024, 20:59 Wouldn’t be surprised to see Pett leave before the end of the window.
I said to a friend the other day we could still lose Freestone, Pett and Taylor.
asl
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Taylor famously has two more years on his contract, doesn't he ? At his age, I can't see him running away from that.
Robin
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He had a long deal at FGR on more money but left because he wasn't happy with the management approach. Hopefully he fits in here but given the current way we are headed I wouldn't bank on it.
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I think freestone will go.
Someone will come in for bonds and he will go aswell
Oldun
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I think all the turnstile staff will be poached by Gloucester and the Matty U will go to Cirencester. Every chance the goal nets will be bought by Saracens and the corner flags by Smiths Athletic.. Not to worry, we'll all stay extremely positive and up beat.
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Robin wrote: 08 Jun 2024, 06:37
Broadway Brian wrote: 07 Jun 2024, 20:59 Wouldn’t be surprised to see Pett leave before the end of the window.
I said to a friend the other day we could still lose Freestone, Pett and Taylor.
Freestone and Pett looking increasingly likely according to JP which isn't surprising. Pett seemed very non committal during last season and now with DC gone seems inevitable.
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HamTown wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 12:11
Robin wrote: 08 Jun 2024, 06:37
Broadway Brian wrote: 07 Jun 2024, 20:59 Wouldn’t be surprised to see Pett leave before the end of the window.
I said to a friend the other day we could still lose Freestone, Pett and Taylor.
Freestone and Pett looking increasingly likely according to JP which isn't surprising. Pett seemed very non committal during last season and now with DC gone seems inevitable.
Think Pett lives in Manchester so Barnsley not a million miles away….
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Yeah - I'm definitely more concerned about Freestone going than Pett.
andgarod
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so if pett goes and freestone more money for the fighting fund
It means its a flynn /Gary team

What is more remarkable is that nobody has come in for Kenna
Fuller
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andgarod wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 12:44 so if pett goes and freestone more money for the fighting fund
It means its a flynn /Gary team

What is more remarkable is that nobody has come in for Kenna
Plenty of time for that, two and a half months to go before the window shuts.
HamTown
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James Bittner GK coach leaving now :cry:

With Day to be part time coach. Skeptical how well that will work
Si Robin
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Day would be player-coach, not part-time coach.

I suspect he'll be coming in as backup keeper, with a young loanee in as number 1 - as was Gary Johnson's MO with goalkeepers in his time with us.
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Was his departure was choreographed after we signed Joe Day or was it his own choice?
HamTown
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Si Robin wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 17:46 Day would be player-coach, not part-time coach.

I suspect he'll be coming in as backup keeper, with a young loanee in as number 1 - as was Gary Johnson's MO with goalkeepers in his time with us.
Well player coach player part time coach, not a big difference? Anyway, I suspect you're right with the young keeper
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HamTown wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 17:11 James Bittner GK coach leaving now :cry:

With Day to be part time coach. Skeptical how well that will work
Another few bob saved, cunning plan
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Broadway Brian
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HamTown wrote:
Si Robin wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 17:46 Day would be player-coach, not part-time coach.

I suspect he'll be coming in as backup keeper, with a young loanee in as number 1 - as was Gary Johnson's MO with goalkeepers in his time with us.
Well player coach player part time coach, not a big difference? Anyway, I suspect you're right with the young keeper
I see Oxford have just signed a young keeper from Wet Sham and have pretty much said he’ll be off out on loan.

2 + 2?

Maybe unfair but I’m not sad to see Bittner go. I’ll forever associate him with those first 11 games of last season given his was the loudest voice on the touchline. A tad harsh I know.
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I'd say that is harsh given his specialty was the complete other end of the pitch :D
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Si Robin wrote:I'd say that is harsh given his specialty was the complete other end of the pitch :D
Sure. I associate him with it, rather than I blame him for it. That said, his role on the bench during matches went far beyond advising solely the goalkeeper. He was the prominent voice and that’s what I’ll think of when I hear the name James Bittner.

Same as I associate Brian Graham with his tantrum around taking a penalty that he then missed, despite him not being a bad CF in his time here.
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