The Messiah to return?

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nitram82
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This has to happen.
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Soon! Like a thief in the night! 😇
art vandalay
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He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naught boy.

For going to FGR.
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art vandalay wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 19:01 He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naught boy.

For going to FGR.
But he didn't save them and then didn't get them promoted, so...
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A terrible symmetry if we were to drop out of the league under his management.
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For those of us who refuse to use X - can someone copy the message?
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I also refuse to use it but you can view latest tweets on Google. Fwiw - “EXC: I understand Cheltenham Town are in discussions with the most successful manager in the club's history Steve Cotterill over a possible return”
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art vandalay wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 19:21 I also refuse to use it but you can view latest tweets on Google. Fwiw - “EXC: I understand Cheltenham Town are in discussions with the most successful manager in the club's history Steve Cotterill over a possible return”
Ah didn't know that thanks!! Great news. Think it's the correct appointment. All that matters is the next 7 months.
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art vandalay wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 19:21 I also refuse to use it but you can view latest tweets on Google. Fwiw - “EXC: I understand Cheltenham Town are in discussions with the most successful manager in the club's history Steve Cotterill over a possible return”
If he has any sense he will run a mile from it.
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Here's hoping. I only see SC or Steve Evans fixing this till the end of the season and keeping us up and yes i'd take Evans right now if not SC
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Ralph wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 19:44 Here's hoping. I only see SC or Steve Evans fixing this till the end of the season and keeping us up and yes i'd take Evans right now if not SC
25 years of barely missing a game will come to an abrupt halt for me, if we appoint Evans.

I can fully understand why he would be considered, but I absolutely detest the man & his antics. I could never support any team that had him as manager.
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I don’t think anyone is going to come in and properly fix us. A motivator who can make us tough to beat is our best bet and I think he could do that.
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I dont get why Steve Evans name keeps getting mentioned - his stock is surely a lot higher than L2 relegation battle.
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HamTown wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 21:28 I dont get why Steve Evans name keeps getting mentioned - his stock is surely a lot higher than L2 relegation battle.
He's out of work so got to be worth an approach?? I would of thought any manager coming in until the end of the season to sort this mess out could name their price and we would have to pay it.

I am not sure on Cotterill personally. Is he up to date with available players etc? Yes he's got his undisputed history with the club and is the most successful manager ever for CTFC but its different times at the moment. One thing for sure I guess is he wont take any prisoners and he will at least (hopefully) get the players a bit more motivated and disciplined than they currently are.
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HamTown wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 21:28 I dont get why Steve Evans name keeps getting mentioned - his stock is surely a lot higher than L2 relegation battle.
Like when he took over Stevenage who were at the bottom of the league as well? He's just been sacked at Rotherham his stock is not super high that he can wait for a league one club.
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Tbh, I don't know why SC would come back. His stock here is so high it can only possibly go in one direction. Feels like a short-term appointment until the end of the season, at best.
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asl wrote: 28 Sep 2025, 09:01 Tbh, I don't know why SC would come back. His stock here is so high it can only possibly go in one direction. Feels like a short-term appointment until the end of the season, at best.
I am also surprised SC is entertaining the idea......
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asl wrote: 28 Sep 2025, 09:01 Tbh, I don't know why SC would come back. His stock here is so high it can only possibly go in one direction. Feels like a short-term appointment until the end of the season, at best.
Two words....Mike Garlick.
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With the "legacy tarnishing" that gets banded about, if we go down his legacy will be diminished whether hes involved or not.

His legacy looks far better if "he made Cheltenham Town in to a football league club" rather than "he gave Cheltenham Town a spell as a football league club".

Its not a big risk for him IMO.
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And if he turns is around? From one of the worst starts in our history and then on the end of a 7-1 hiding. He'll have his own statue put up outside the new man stand.
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HamTown wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 21:28 I dont get why Steve Evans name keeps getting mentioned - his stock is surely a lot higher than L2 relegation battle.
I firmly believe it only gets mentioned because he was in the news in the last couple of weeks. His name has never been mentioned when we've needed a manager before.
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Well it seems Cotts is odds on now, but the timeline has been puzzling.

On the Saturday Flynny got the bullet with Cotts in attendance.
Bookies stop taking bets with him as favourite.
Club says they are making swift progress.
JP reports that MG is meeting shortlisted candidates imminently.
That seemed to indicate Cotts was out of the picture.
Saturday PM after the Grimsby debacle JP reports that we are in discussions with Cotts.

If only one of the Nests GCHQ whizz kids could tell us what MG's been up too.😀
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paperboy wrote: 28 Sep 2025, 17:35 Well it seems Cotts is odds on now, but the timeline has been puzzling.

On the Saturday Flynny got the bullet with Cotts in attendance.
Bookies stop taking bets with him as favourite.
Club says they are making swift progress.
JP reports that MG is meeting shortlisted candidates imminently.
That seemed to indicate Cotts was out of the picture.
Saturday PM after the Grimsby debacle JP reports that we are in discussions with Cotts.

If only one of the Nests GCHQ whizz kids could tell us what MG's been up too.😀
Maybe Cotts is the desired choice but he isn't sure and needs some persuading, and meanwhile other candidates have been interviewed, in case he doesn't get his man?
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Update from JP

Cotts set to be confirmed.

https://x.com/JonPalmerSport/status/197 ... 6GLXg&s=19
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paperboy wrote: 28 Sep 2025, 19:30 Update from JP

Cotts set to be confirmed.

https://x.com/JonPalmerSport/status/197 ... 6GLXg&s=19
No surprise there, but I’m sure Cotts will want assurity that he’s given the tools to do the job.
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paperboy wrote: 28 Sep 2025, 19:30 Update from JP

Cotts set to be confirmed.

https://x.com/JonPalmerSport/status/197 ... 6GLXg&s=19
Really not sure on this but time will tell......
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I mean... yeah I get it, but... pffft. So uninspiring and comes with some risks.

Fail to keep us up and we could be in a right mess. Trust Cotts to get us back up (which he failed to do with FGR with a bigger budget), or change yet again with an even smaller pool of managers to pick from.

Plus the football is going to be agricultural at best for the next 8 months
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One of the major things "missing" during Flynn's tenure imo was the connection with the fan base. Certainly not helped by our board... a real feeling that nowhere top to bottom was there one of us. Now we have a fan... homegrown hero. Who is proven here.

But also someone with huge experience of L2-Championship football. Anyone who thinks we could get anyone more experienced has delusions of grandure. Anyone who thinks we need a manager without experience is on cloud cuckoo!

Without a DOF, in the position we are in with the quality we have - we need someone who will grab the entire club by the long & danglies.

Fantastic appointment now the fans MUST play their part & come together to change the narrative - loud & positive!!!

Up the robins!!!
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I’d be over the moon with Steve Cotterill.

We need someone who can unite the club and bring back that feel-good factor – surely Cotts is the man for that.

What’s gone on before needs to stay in the past. If and when this is announced, we need to get behind it, get back to WR, and pull ourselves clear of this awful mess.

No doubt Garlick will continue his internal audit and act appropriately ref the board members following the Cotterill appointment.
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As with Flynn ( who the majority of us were happy with at the time) as good as an appointment as we could hope for.
Positive that Cotts has watched us a few times already so will have seen which players he can trust on the pitch.
Bad news for Mike Garlick as he's probably been told he'll have to reach deeper into his pockets than he envisaged because urgent major surgery is needed rather than a cosmetic fix.
Cotts was levered out of Shrewsbury partly because he'd overspent and it wasn't sustainable and like DC he's likely to know that we need a potent striker which won't be cheap.
It'll be needed rather than drop into the NL which would a disaster financially and then more some spending silly amounts to claw ourself back into the league.
Hope Cotts hasn't woken up this morning and had a reality check with himself.

Good luck Steve
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I'm happy with Cotterill but there is also some nostalgia here, the younger fans (basically anyone under 30) won't have seen him here but a lot will know he was manager of FGR so that will count against him. He will get results but the style of football won't be nice on the eye which again I can see being a barrier so getting the fans behind him is true to an extent but if results don't pick up I can see frustrations airing again too.

Also the managerial poll on here shows Cotterill is 2nd choice and this forum I suspect is more skewed towards longer term fans than youngsters.
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paperboy wrote: 29 Sep 2025, 08:09 As with Flynn ( who the majority of us were happy with at the time) as good as an appointment as we could hope for.
Positive that Cotts has watched us a few times already so will have seen which players he can trust on the pitch.
Bad news for Mike Garlick as he's probably been told he'll have to reach deeper into his pockets than he envisaged because urgent major surgery is needed rather than a cosmetic fix.
Cotts was levered out of Shrewsbury partly because he'd overspent and it wasn't sustainable and like DC he's likely to know that we need a potent striker which won't be cheap.
It'll be needed rather than drop into the NL which would a disaster financially and then more some spending silly amounts to claw ourself back into the league.
Hope Cotts hasn't woken up this morning and had a reality check with himself.

Good luck Steve
I think we all need to have our eyes open that the reason SC is coming back is because of the financial backing of Mike Garlick. He's been watching most of the home games so he will know which players to move on and who he can build around.

Myself I can't see Archer's recent performances being tolerated for long, AJB might also be dropped. First rule is work rate and application. On the flipside he will love players like Liam Kinsella, George Miler and Freddie Wilcox, whilst Darragh Power will probably be first choice right back because he's a defender first and foremost. I expect Steve to bring in a couple of strikers and a proper box to box midfielder.

There are others like Young, Pell, maybe Wilson and Day where it could likely go either way in the coming months.
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Robin wrote: 29 Sep 2025, 08:14 I'm happy with Cotterill but there is also some nostalgia here, the younger fans (basically anyone under 30) won't have seen him here but a lot will know he was manager of FGR so that will count against him. He will get results but the style of football won't be nice on the eye which again I can see being a barrier so getting the fans behind him is true to an extent but if results don't pick up I can see frustrations airing again too.

Also the managerial poll on here shows Cotterill is 2nd choice and this forum I suspect is more skewed towards longer term fans than youngsters.
The poll has had 12 votes (I'm the 12th) so hardly a ringing endorsement of anyone to be fair.

I really think you're overselling his stint at FGR as some sort of barrier. Not least because he failed there so got the nickname Agent Cotterill among the younger fanbase.

A lot of the youngsters know their history, my son is now 15 and he knows well and truly how important Steve Cotterill was and is. His mates of the same age all know he is our greatest ever manager. There may be a few who don't get it, but I think their numbers will be minute in comparison.

You only have to see the Twitter/X posts from the 1887 Red Army to see how they feel about the appointment.

Given the morale around the club, we need a unifying presence. There is none more unifying than our greatest ever manager!
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